newcalvinismforold wrote: And in the case of the one drawn from a secular folk song, it is probable that the world had stolen that melody from the church, and Luther merely reclaimed it (totally adapting and sanitizing it).
I remember Dr. Sproul Sr. stating it either on his Ligonier radio broadcast or face-to-face in his PCA Sunday School class (Circa 1996).
Either this tune (as you stated) or an impreccatory song against the Arminians (or other adversary) as opposite sides chanted from one pub to another across a river in Germany.
I'm sure Driscoll (and other YR&R) knows this history if one wishes to Google it.
Joe the Protestant wrote: Still up to your obsession of turning these threads into pro catholic threads eh? After your Apostacy into catholicism you should have gone to a catholic webite, and quit involving people in turning every article into debates over catholisism.
Do you awaken every day knowing why youâ€™re Protestant? If not you should "do the decent thing and rejoin the Roman Catholic Church."
If you're a Protestant, you're protesting against the Roman Catholic Church. Every thread on SA is, ultimately, about the Roman Catholic Church since it is the Roman Catholic Church alone (not Sola Fide since most forgot that in the 20th Century or earlier) that unites all Protestants.
Otherwise your name would be "Joe the Biblicist," etc.
abcdefg wrote: If the Nicene Creed was introduced to guard against heresy, that in serpentine fashion the Church of Rome misuses in order to promote the very heresy that it was meant to guard against; that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, then should we ignore the Scripture and follow our own inclinations toward the offending individual?
If not the Nicene Creed, what is the universal Protestant Gospel Summary in a nutshell?
John UK wrote: There is NO remission of sins at water baptism.
Was in the PCA prior to converting into the Roman Catholic Church. They (and every other conservative Presbyterian denomination I know) recite the Gospel Summary (Nicene Creed) regularly and have never removed nor quibbled at all with its baptismal phrase.
Had some Baptist friends who heard a sermon like this and immediately came home to search all the Scriptures related to beer, wine and alcohol. This young married couple couldn't find a verse that implied thou shalt not ever consume any alcohol. They never returned to that baptist church and are Presbyterians to this day.
I have really appreciated Dr. MacArthur through the 100s of sermons I've heard from him, seen him at Ligonier and have several of his life-changing books on my shelves, but how will this rebuke be taken by the young, restless and Reformed?
All the rest of his significant teaching could be ignored if the next-generation Reformed does as my Berean friends did that Sunday afternoon.
The Gospel isnâ€™t a set of transformational steps that I must climb to get saved. The Gospel is a story â€” our story â€” which we share with the world to explain precisely who Jesus is what He has done, is doing and will do.
Doesnâ€™t the Nicene Creed, the universal Gospel in a nutshell for over 1,600 years, remain the Gospel Story?
How could one be considered a Christian and disagree with it?
Since no Reformation creed has supplanted it, doesnâ€™t the Church who gave us the Nicene Creed, retain the Gospel?
Isnâ€™t the Nicene Creed this Gospel Story?
A Europe which believes not this Gospel Story (the Nicene Creed) would be a Europe which has returned to its pre-Christ, pagan roots.
"No one needs to prove to us that we may be watching the death of the germ-cell of civilization, the family. All the signs are abundantly clear all around us. We are all constantly looking at the parade in the media of divorce, sexual rebellion, abortion, sterilization, delinquency, infidelity, homosexuality, women's liberation, children's rights and so on.
"Dr. Armand Nicolai II of Harvard sees the trend to destroy the family as a devastating trend. He points to married women with children working outside the home, the tendency for families to move frequently, almost constantly, the dominance of television in the home, the lack of controls in society, the chaos of moral confusion, the lack of communication among families and divorce, and all of those things, he says, are threatening the very life which we live. Let me quote from him.
"We can expect the assassination of people in authority to be frequent occurrences. Crimes of violence will increase, even those within the family. The suicide rate will rise. As sexuality becomes more and more unlimited and separated from family and emotional commitment, the deadening effect will cause more bizarre experimentation and wide-spread perversion.""
"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."
Are the other 10,000 "Bible" churches in its franchise (WCA) following them down this primrose path to "not inherit the kingdom of God"?
2 Narratives: (1.) "Catholics have been blaspheming God since Constantine. They've been murdering Christians, raping children, synchronizing with idols and false gods, accepting homosexuality, spreading a false Gospel and so on."
(2.) "Pre-Reformation there was "REAL Christians" - AND Roman Catholics in the church."
Either the Roman Catholic Church: (1.) Was totally corrupt for 1,200 years (and remains as such) or (2.) Contained "wheat and tares" for 1,200 years and still contains "wheat and tares."
In light of God's "job performance," which is the correct narrative?