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James is back wrote:
Some of these comments are absurd.
Well, these are the sermonaudio forums.
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James is back wrote:
or perhaps a closet Muslim
Not even a tuna sandwich would think that was a possibility.

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Pyro wrote:
... but when Pastor ... hears that one of his respected members has abused a child, wouldn't he violate Matthew 18 by first dialing 911?
Only in the minds of the vilest of twisted cults.

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Rufus wrote:
Please provide me with evidence of him providing "a secret refuge for a pedophile". Please provide evidence of him "engineering the convenient removal" etc.
Please answer the first three questions in my post of 4:19 pm. Critically evaluate the evidence you have already seen.

Sticking your fingers in your ears whilst holding a scarf around your eyes and shouting I don't want to hear it speaks to you and not the evidence. Your persistent pattern here evidences that you have no intention of seeing any evidence and are wilfully blind.

Phelps has admitted to "mistakes" (see below). The issue is not the facts or lack of evidence but the unbiblical redefinition of sin as mistakes.

There is no dispute that Phelps acknowledges that he knew Willis had sex with the victim.
There is no dispute as to the fact that she was a child at the time, this has been proven in a court of law.
There is no dispute that Phelps did not issue a public warning to other children and parents in the church that there was a known sexual predator in their midst.
There is no dispute that the out of state plan came not from the victim or her family.
There is no dispute that the police were unable to interview the victim at the time.


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Rufus wrote:
Providing counsel to the flock is within the authority of the pastor and is not "controlling influence". Receiving or rejecting that counsel is within the authority of the head of the individual houses. Whether or not he provided this counsel, I know not. Whether or not the counsel was proper, I know not. However, what is clear is it is neither your nor my role to criticize this counsel since we are not participants in the issue. Thus, it falls into the category of none of your (or my) business.
I do tremble that the Lord will judge both of us for every idle word including your "infidel" inference. I'll propose a deal...all those that are accusing this pastor without proof of any actual wrong-doing hold your peace and I will do likewise.
Then you should advise sermonaudio to close their forums down rather than posting such stories and inviting public comment.

Attributing the word pastor to what happened here should make you tremble. Providing counsel is within the role of what a biblical pastor should do.

Engineering the convenient removal of a victim away from the inquiries of the police is not.

Providing a secret refuge for a pedophile in his church is not.

Your deal is based on a false premise.


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Rufus wrote:
According to Dr. Phelps, the decision to move Tina to Colorado was the mother's decision.
The "decision" was not in dispute.

But from where did the "option" come?
What was the "recommendation" he gave to the mother?
Why was living at home with the support and care of her family and a real biblical church not an "option"?
You know the answer to these.
Phelps controling influence is clear to see.

The statement about infidels was generic. I note that you construed a direct connection to Phelps. Perhaps you should tremble before the Lord?


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Yet, in this case, the church leader performed his rightful duty in notifying the civil authorities.
... and at the same time used his controling influence over the family to move the girl out of state away from the police investigators and ...

Infidels can box very clever, especially in the church.


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Former Supporter wrote:
BJU calls this a mistake that anyone would make and I disagree.

The way person that can do this is a Fake believer.

lying to his congregation in both states a sin.

Call it what is is, SIN

Agreed.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Agreed.



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