Jim Lincoln wrote:
What a good, sensible answer John U.K.
Anyway, too many churches have forgotten The Truth Behind The Church's Purpose, and that's purpose isn't to be an arm of a political party.

Christopher000 wrote:
I agree that derogatory terms such as "homo", or whatever shouldn't be used when referencing homosexuals, but don't use the word "gay" when referring to them? I am a "so-called Christian" because I might use the term " gay people" and because I use it, I may not truly be saved? Have I unwittingly formed a league with Satan who wants everyone to use his word, "gay"?
Semantics and very judgemental, I think. There are several examples below and one more would be Christ calling the woman riding a beast, a whore, and there are others.
I guess what really caught my eye and bothers me about this thread is the use of the phrase, "My Jesus says, My Jesus would, My Jesus wouldn't", etc, when arguing a point. This gives me the impression that only one person on the board truly knows Him and the rest haven't a clue and must be enlightened. I'm sure this isn't what's Intended but this is the impression I get when reading how the phrase is used.

Lisa wrote:
Hi Barry. A summary of how we got where we did:
I found it distasteful that so called Christians should call gay people gender benders and I tried to suggest that Jesus would not use such derogatory terms when discussing people. It then turned into- god hates sinners and only loves the elect. Or variations along that theme and I was asked to find exact verses that prove that god loves sinners and hates sin. And eventually accused of being a shallow Christian. I hope that brings it just about up to date !!!!

John UK wrote:
Thanks for that, Christopher.
Looks like a meeting in the forest is called for, like John Bunyan and his pilgrims.

Christopher000 wrote:
To me, nothing will ever replace an actual book. I prefer them over any electronic means. I like to use bookmarks, I like the smell of the paper, I like to highlight and handwrite notes, etc.

Bartok wrote:
I cannot speak for your own country Barry, but in todays "unemployment" times - The guy who is cleaning the fish is a guy with a "useless" degree.

Facts are in Scripture wrote:
The Bible 'believes' in young earth creation.
God wrote the Bible (KJV Only).
The Elect believe the Bible.

John Yurich USA wrote:
How is insane can anybody be to make the statements that you made on your post above? The First Amendment guarantees Freedom of Religion which means that nobody can interfere with how someone practices their religion. And that includes students in public schools and factory workers if they arrive late because they were practicing their religion in the manner that they wished to do on any particular day.

Mike wrote:
The news says: "Senior Obama administration officials have secretly authorized the interception of communications carried on portions of networks operated by AT&T and other Internet service providers, a practice that might otherwise be illegal under federal wiretapping laws."
Just out of curiosity, how does that which is illegal become legal without a change in the law itself? I might suggest it is still illegal until Congress changes the law, not the exec branch secretly skirting it. But that would be the constitutional thing to do, and these antinomians care little about such matters.

Mike wrote:
"any one of us would have done likewise" is a very large crock.

John Yurich USA wrote:
Why would Hobby Lobby want to have employees on their payroll when they can use temp workers from temp agencies and only pay however much the temp agencies charge to use their temp workers? Any business that has employees on their payroll instead of using temp workers is nuts.