Thank you . . . Brother Modene, thank you for the message of last Sunday--I praise the Lord for your preaching, I am blessed to have both my Local church's preaching pastor and you most weeks. The juxtaposition of bible references between the sermons (my pastors message centered on rememberence of what the Lord has done for us as believers, his scripture was Joshua chapter 23) was encouraging in that both truths about the Father's promise of discipline in His displeasure ( the close of Joshua 23)and His promise of the ultimate gift imaginable (your closing scriptural reference and the close of your sermon feed the flame of the Spirit inside me. I thank the Father for the convergence of ideas also ( you both mentioned remember the time of our salvation in your messages)-- true and faithful preaching echoes through the ages, Amen
Re Ecumenical service - it was actually a Boy Scout meeting and the boy Scout brigade had a Priest as their non-denominational Chaplain - not quite the same thing! Also Paisley attended a service in London for veterans of the Falklands or some such at which a Priest prayed alongside an Anglican along time ago - still not an ecumenical serive in my mind - it was a service for veterans attended by all denomination including non-Christians, same as Poppy Day / Remembrance Day / Veteran Day services!
PS My Bible tells me the Greatest commandment is to Love God and Love Thy neighbour - Ulster is a divided place and as such is a shared space where people must learn to live together - no one side can win!
ehud, you have misrepresented and taken out of context those quotes. `Never, Never, Never` was in reference to the Anglo-Irish Agreement and Dublin being able to interfere in Northern Ireland affairs over and above the heads of local Northern Ireland politicians. `over my dead body` referred to Sinn Fein-IRA before IRA exited the stage and `plan B` was the British & Irish governments intended `partnership arrangements` again over and above local polticians heads with devovled powers to 7 super councils with Sinn Fein in control of the 3 councils west of the Bann. Dr Paisley secured the Union, secured Ulster`s self determination and secured local self government. God Belss you Dr Paisley - the IRA lost their war and contrary to their previous manifestos embraced the police, law and order and a Sormont (Belfast) based government!
"See my previous posting (about a dozen down). The story of Lazarus and the rich man is a PARABLE, in which Jesus uses the Talmudic view of the afterlife to warn the Jews of the judgment which is about to fall upon them.
Talmudic Judaism is NOT the Faith of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob."
It is not a parable... It doesn't say it's a parabale like most parts of the Bible do, doesn't start like one, Jesus doesn't explain what it means, he didn't compare it with anything, parables don't use specific names, and of course Jesus NEVER USED FALSE IDEAS TO EXPLAIN TRUE ONES NOT EVEN TO GIVE A WARNING. You mistaked Jesus or your very own toughts are mistaked about what the Scriptures say.
In the transfiguration Jesus talked to Moses and Elijah... they were resurrected for a little time and then back to "sleep"? Enoch was translated that he should not see death, then where is he now? is he dead?????????? You have to be very carefull when taking doctrines out of Ecclesiastes, because it gives a EARTHLY view of what is going on arround him... he describes what he SEES WITH HIS EYES, that's why dead people is "asleep", just like animals. Does this mean humans and animals share the same destiny??? Please try to notice when you speak about a preconceived idea and what the Bible really s
Pete - re sodomite funding - Dr Paisley made clear in his sermon the funds were allocated prior to devolution by the Secretary of State, Peter Hain of the British Labour Party and that when such matters were devolved from London to Belfast he refused to sign the appropriate papers to give them the rest of the money so the Westminster / London officials went over and above him to cintinue the funding and as to going to the High Court - well the legal challenge was initially against the Westminster government who introduced pro-sodomite legislation at Westminster firstly for northern Ireland and then for UK - once devolution kicked in then the defendent changed from Westminster government to the NI government and the office responsible for it - the First Ministers Office - Dr Paisley has no say whatsoever in it, the government office is duty bound to make a defense of the laws of the land which they did not actually legislate for.... london did)
Great Sermon! Thanks for this Dr Paisley - it clears up alot of matters and perhaps we should all beware idle tittle-tattle talk behind peoples backs. Lev. 19:16-18: " Thou shall not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people...thou shalt not hate thy neighbour in thine heart:"
I don`t see this as any different than Dr Paisley attending the poppy day / remembrance day / veteran day service in London representing Northern Ireland as First Minister....that was a `non-denominational service` through a thrid party..the Royal British Legion as this was through the Scouts..its not quite the same as a joint ecumenical service in my mind!
A spokesman for the scouts "It was a celebration of scouting and not an ecumenical service and as such it followed the normal format of a scouting organisation event," he said. "It was led by the scouts and Fr Paul Symonds simply opened and closed prayers. But Dr Paisley was there on civic duties only, not in a religious capacity."
He said the mayor and deputy mayor of Ballymena attended the event and that Mr Symonds was the only clergyman invited to the event in that capacity. "The order of the Thanksgiving Service was presented by a scout leader of one of the Mid-Antrim District Scout groups and Fr Paul Symonds, as chaplain of the organising scout group, was invited to say the opening and closing prayers of thanksgiving during the service. "The Scout Association would like to make it clear that this was a thanksgiving service to celebrate the centenary of scouting, organised by, and led by, Mid-Antrim District Sco
It`s interesting that the figures for Roman Catholics was the same north and south of Ireland whilst the Protestant (almost entirely in Northern Ireland )figure was lower, but especially in young people regardless.
The 30 years of `The Troubles` in Northern Ireland acted as a kind of shield against secularism but since the 1998 peace accord and the subsequent `normalisation` (ie no soldiers on the streets, road blocks / check points, no bombs etc) British and American multi-nationals and media companies have come sucking in. Ulster is about 20/30 years behind the UK but the rate of secularisation in the last 10 years would seem to be much greater leading me to believe we will soon have `caught up`!
Are you saying that the first Minister Of Northern Ireland should not be trying to bring world class investment to Ulster? As far as I am aware casino`s are not legal in Ulster and only recently made legal on mainland UK. Ulster has suffered 30 years of terrorism and is in the middle of an economic boost / recovery / normalisation where all the multi-nationals are setting up shop - Northern Ireland would welcome another world class golf course to boost its tourist industry!
attending an overtly Roman catholic ceremony is not quite the same as going to Westminster Cathedral as First Minister Of Northern Ireland on Poppy Day / Rememberance Day / Veterans Days to pay respect to our ulster / British / Irish and Allied War Dead in the two Great Wars and other conflicts such as the Falklands and the Northern Ireland Troubles now is it? - As to co-government, it is a mandatory colalition of the 4 biggest parties in Northern Ireland - recent rsignations by Sinn Fein members, shooting of two Roman Catholic police officers and death threats to sinn Fein members for support the police and th district policing partnerships by dissident Republicans shows change
the bbc writes "on YouTube showing him pointing a gun and declaring himself a "social Darwinist" who would "eliminate all who I see unfit"." an earlier version of this story also featured a picture of him wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with "humanity is overrated"
"here's a letter from the reformed presbyterian church (covenanter) in ireland to dr paisley."
it will be interesting to see the response - however regarding the Sexual Orientation Legislation. These regulations were strenuously opposed by DUP politicians. In the House of Commons, the Northern Ireland legislation was opposed by the DUP party in the Standing Committee.
In addition, Lord Morrow, the DUP chairman, moved a motion in the House of Lords on January 9, calling for the regulations to be overturned. Lord Morrowâ€™s annulment motion was supported by all the DUP peers with some Conservative support, but opposed by the Labour and Liberal Democrat peers and Baroness May Blood. Jeffrey Donaldson and the late George Dawson MLA tabled a motion in the shadow Northern Ireland Assembly (priot to devolution) on December 11, calling for the Government to withdraw the Northern Ireland Sexual Orientation Regulations. (See the Official Report of the Transitional Assembly dated December 11, 2006 on the Assembly website.) A total of 27 DUP MLAs voted with the motion. They were supported by half of the UUP MLA team at that time (the other half abstained). The motion was opposed by Sinn Fein, SDLP, the Alliance Party and the PUP. THe motion was defeated by 1.
"what are they going to do to overturn those laws? " "can we expect The Rev. Dr. Paisley and his party to now bring forward legislation seeking the repeal or amendment of the said SORs?" Well first point is they voted against said laws in Westminster, secondly they held a vote in the shadow Assembly before devolution and were defeated whn Nationalists, cross community Alliance and the P.U.P outvoted their motion, thirdly any motion seeking to repeal SOR`s is doomed to defeat firstly since it would require 50% Unionist and 50% Nationalist support to repeal the law (and Nationalists / Catholics all supported the law) and secondly because it would probably contravene European Union law which has superiority. If you have a way around that then lets hear it because I would like to see it happen!
by the way unfortunately not all DUP members are professing Christians, it is a secular Unionist party which just so happens to have a strong evangelical base.
Wayne - most of the protestors were not even Free Presbyterians - "Pastor" Clifford Peeples was one of them, a man sentenced to 10 years for having hand grenades and pipe bombs in his car for use by Loyalist terrorist organisations.
The Office Of First Minister and Deputy First Minister is a government Office obliged to defend what is already law when someone challenges the legality of the law (which was introduced by the London government, Labour Ministers, not Northern Ireland politicians who voted against, but they are only 10 MP`s out of hundreds
The Christian Institutes counter court case against SOR`s has been in the pipeline since January and would have initially had Westminster / Northern Ireland Offfice Ministers as the defendants as it was them that introduced th laws, only when those laws came under jurisdiction of the new devolved Northern Ireland Assembly in Belfast would the Office of First and Deputy First Minister have become the defendant.
Well I agree with all your points apart from the bits blaming Dr Paisley - as stated the Secretarry of State for Northern Ireland, Peter Hain, the British Labour Party member allocated the funding, the British Labour Party introduced SOR`s despite the overwhelming majority in UK and Northern Ireland being against. The funding is controlled by the Office of the First Minister and Deputy First Minister which is a joint office, for Dr Paisley to remove funding already aloocated by someone else to to seek to remove the SOR`s legislation would require the Deputy First Minster to agree and to pass any legislation would require atleast 50% of Unionists (mostly Protestants) and 50% of Nationalists (most Roman Catholics) to agree. Next year when these things are to be decided by the reverse token Dr Paisley should beable to block the funding as he has a veto, just as now others have a veto now that the funding was already passed beforehand. Nothing can be changed unless all are agreed so in this case since the funding is already allocated by Peter Hain and the Nationalist are pro-gay rights it cannot be reversed but come next year when such proposals can be vetoed unless all sides agree.
Indeed we are all sinners an can err - that is why we need the Lord - we cannot be perfect this side of Life. The Stormont Assembly is a talking shop, a toothless tiger that can do nothing unless all sides are agreed as each side has a veto - if there is no agreement then things stay as they are. - I see it as no different to the very same politicians sitting in local council chambers with each other, sitting in Westminster government and sitting in the European Parliament with each other.