"Positively, we live near the end of what Rev. 20 calls the "thousand years". This millennium began at Pentecost and will end when time and history end. Christ shall return personally and visibly, shall call forth the dead from the graves and the seas, shall judge all men according to their works, and shall bring His sheep into one fold, the heavenly house of many mansions! Let the Reformed truth continue to be sounded "that the Son of God from the beginning to the end of the world, gathers, defends, and preserves to Himself by His Spirit and Word out of the whole human race, a Church chosen to everlasting life, agreeing in true faith" (Heidelberg Catechism, Lord's Day XXI) Blessed are all those who are living members thereof!" (Rev. Dale H. Kuiper)
Vic wrote: another propagandist liar-are you writing out of malice or just genuine ignorance?
Why Vic. Did I step on your hypothesis by accident? Here is a couple of pointers from a good site to read. Hope this helps.
"Contrary to the dispensationalistsâ€™ attempt to link its history to that of early premillennial Church Fathers, those ancient premillennialists held positions that are fundamentally out of accord with the very foundational principles of dispensationalism, foundations which Ryrie calls â€śthe linchpin of dispensationalismâ€ť, such as (1) a distinction between the Church and Israel (i.e., the Church is true Israel, â€śthe true Israelitic raceâ€ť (Justin Martyr) and (2) that â€śJudaism ... has now come to an endâ€ť (Justin Martyr).
Despite dispensationalismâ€™s claim of antiquity through its association with historic premillennialism, it radically breaks with historic premillennialism by promoting a millennium that is fundamentally Judaic rather than Christian." (againstdispensationalism.com)
Mr. Dispy wrote: trying to prove doctrine by what the so-called 'fathers' believed, rather than relying on the Bible.
Dispy "Relying on the Bible" is good advice.
Those who really do rely on the Bible have never accepted Dispensational Premillennialism. Thats a fact. As is indicated in the historic statement below.
Whereas those who rely on poor old Margaret MacDonald, her visions, Darby and Scofield's horrendus mistranslation of Scripture are surely not going to be content with Scripture alone. Hence their preoccupation with adding lots and lots of mythology, (eg rapture) to the Bible.