Dopey wrote:
I clicked

Vic wrote:
another propagandist liar-are you writing out of malice or just genuine ignorance?

"Contrary to the dispensationalists’ attempt to link its history to that of early premillennial Church Fathers, those ancient premillennialists held positions that are fundamentally out of accord with the very foundational principles of dispensationalism, foundations which Ryrie calls “the linchpin of dispensationalism�, such as (1) a distinction between the Church and Israel (i.e., the Church is true Israel, “the true Israelitic race� (Justin Martyr) and (2) that “Judaism ... has now come to an end� (Justin Martyr).

Despite dispensationalism’s claim of antiquity through its association with historic premillennialism, it radically breaks with historic premillennialism by promoting a millennium that is fundamentally Judaic rather than Christian." (againstdispensationalism.com)

Mr. Dispy wrote:
trying to prove doctrine by what the so-called 'fathers' believed, rather than relying on the Bible.

Those who really do rely on the Bible have never accepted Dispensational Premillennialism. Thats a fact. As is indicated in the historic statement below.

Whereas those who rely on poor old Margaret MacDonald, her visions, Darby and Scofield's horrendus mistranslation of Scripture are surely not going to be content with Scripture alone. Hence their preoccupation with adding lots and lots of mythology, (eg rapture) to the Bible.

St Jeremiah wrote:
They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev. 20:4
There will be a millennium after Jesus' return.

But Christ promised.........