This is good news for those who live "under the heavens". Rome persecuted, vehemently, the church, but Christ conquered that empire. Will do the same there as well. These are great days brothers and sisters!
Jjperra, You have nailed down the lunacy of today's spirit. They want to walk according to desire but assume it will stop at homosexuality. If this wall falls, we are officially a doomed nation. Yet, God be glorified, we all knew this was coming, just not the means.
i am going to try and walk circumspect here, please bare with me if you can.I read Jim's and John Y's posts and have been conflicted inside. On one side I am inclined to side with Jim because I know the official teachings of the RCC are, in fact; unbiblical. Yet, I do not believe there NO differences between Islam and the RCC.I think of the Reformers pre-Reformation. They were priests and/or members of the RCC. I ask myself "were they not Christians prior to God drawing them to the Word over and against the RCC teachings?" I think they were. I do not deny the reality that they may NOT have been, but believe they were. I then think about the current Western Protestant "church". Are there Christians in "churches" that are suspect and have unbiblical teaching? I thought so. With that said, I believe if Christ has truly redeemed John Yurich, he IS saved, regardless of his attending a Catholic Church. BUT, as you grow in grace John, you WILL end up leaving that church.
Michael, I will pray for you because I have the same acid churning reaction too. This capitulation to sodomy is demonic without question. I swing from "board up the windows" and go hermit to "How long God?!" This is our struggle; the aggressive belligerence and madness is sweeping the land.
Mourner, I do NOT advocate joining any church for the sake of going to church. I currently attend a 25-30 member Baptist church that has reverent worship, adherence to scripture as the sole source of God's revelation and standard for man, and has warm caring people. Is it "Reformed"? No. Is every person in attendance saved? I don't know. Is the Word preached without fundamental errors? A resounding YES. If the likes of SC, Dorcas, Frank, and Ladybug do not have this basic example to attend, but gather on the Lord's Day with others, no matter the numbers, and worship together, praise God.
ALL, I do not refute, ignore, or will contradict any scripture that has been presented in context. I stand with you in recognition that there are far more heretical, worldly, and downright apostate "churches". I pray we all stay away from any of that as well as pray ALL would be lead to a fundamentally sound congregation for corporate worship.
Mourner, I believe the Reformed position as well as doctrinal standards. My main point is the desire or lack thereof toward corporate worship. We are certainly saved individually, but as John 17:22-23 and Romans 12 point out we are to be one and many members of one body. I can't accept there are NO congregations for believers to join together in worship. No church or congregation have it all perfect, but there has to be at least one for Christians to fellowship.
dorcas, sc, Do your Christian and provide a scriptural basis for your own judgments. Did you not read my posting of John 17? How can you legitimately make sweeping accusatory judgments on congregations as if you somehow have reached super saint status. I will clue you into something. I spent nearly six years in prison with my only option for corporate worship was at a ecumenical prison chapel. I would leave most "Sunday Service" upset by the weakness of the preaching. But after nights in my cell reading scripture I realized that I cannot forsake the assembly and corporate because of personal convictions. I praise God for that experience and chastening. It made me grateful for corporate worship even during times of watery preaching and ritualistic activity. If the both of you as well as Frank honestly meet with others to worship Christ together, praise God. My weakness is pride or venturing into corrupt zeal, for that I apologize.
missionary work and corporate worship are towards God, but different. It's arrogance to believe that others are not worthy of your standard when they have been saved by the same God. There aren't separate heavens for the mere righteous and the super righteous. You have to do better than tooting your own missionary horn and cite scripture that backs you disobedience and forsaking the fellowship of corporate worship. You may not like someone's rebuke but they serve the Lord as you.
"The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be ONE even as we are ONE, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly ONE, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me." John 17: 22-23
Gen 17, Of course there are sinners in the church, but that doesn't mean someone can go it alone. Your straining is confusing, what are you stating? That believers can just go it alone without corporate worship? That would be unbiblical. Your interpretation directly contradicts other scriptures that speak of the BODY OF BELIEVERS. Or, the use of Sherperd and Flock. A Sherperd doesn't tend to individual sheep only, he SHEPHERDS the FLOCK.
GSTexas, You are correct, that was my point. But, I think it is a delicate cop out to say "I live too far" or "there aren't any good congregations around". A Christian doesn't have to become a Baptist, Presbyterian, or whatever, but is to corporately worship. That is so clear in the scripture. I do not back down from saying God does not have lone wolf Christians or is tolerant of it. Someone quoted A.W. Pink somewhere in this thread. He wrote great books that are biblically rich, but he became cynical at the end of his life, never to worship with other believers. That's sad not praiseworthy. If friends can tear open a roof to get there friend to Jesus, how can a Christian in the age of AUTOMOBILES not find a biblical church?
SteveR, Is the poster right in its proclamation? That's my point. Certainly do not support the woman, but the truth. A true Muslim devil seeks the destruction of Israel AND Christians. So what if the poster is made by a "neocon prostitute"?
There is no "if" with Jesus SC. You miss the point. When Christ comes back he will gather his elect and cast sodomites, appeasers of sodomites, and all other reprobates into hell. You seem to accommodate said sodomites while, again unbiblically, cast your judging net over peripheral matters, making them of binding importance for Christians. So be it. Death to Christmas, go easy on sexual depravity. Got it.