The stupidity and down right zombie chants and signs are fascinating. "No justice, no peace", " the whole system is guilty, shut it down" are a couple. The media, race hustlers and hucksters, and frenzied ideological social media hype caused Ferguson, NOT officer Wilson. This country is lost.
They blew up an old building. They will NEVER blow up the CHURCH. Islam is like the people/nation the LORD refers to in Habbakkuk. They will be fierce, but arrogant; never recognizing the true God. God remains on the throne, and as even one Christian remains on the earth, the Church renains.
This pastor is overlooking the clear teaching of scripture. One, we are SOJOURNERS, two, God raises up nations AND brings them down. Finally, the climate of the culture is directly connected to the adherence, both doctrinally and practically, of the CHURCH. Don't put your trust in men; depend on and seek Him who able ti truly save.
For every bible reductionists, I would love to ask a question about Jesus and the NT. I would how they can explain, if the bible is merely moral platitudes and supernatural hyperbole, why would it ever include people of their own kin, who were present at Christ's miracles, denying what they saw happen before their eyes? This is one of the most striking elements of scripture. The utter, cutting reality of fallen man, no matter the position or role God places man; acting according to his sinful nature even when God is physically manifest. This is what the Ham's of the church should point out. NO OTHER "sacred writings" has their salvific persons with warts and weakennesses. Only Holy Scripture displays the reality of men's fallenness and absolute sovereignty, power, grace, and providential workings of a God, who IS there, and stands alone.
Sorry, hit the add comment too soon. Luther still held a semi-catholic view, as I perceive it, of the communion elements. He was once in a debate of which he repeatedly stated in German "this is my body, this is my body" referring to Christ in the upper chamber. He wasn't totally in step with spiritual cannabilism, but wasn't fully detached from Catholic influence.
This is the real front lines of the war, devilish popery mixing it up uber popular preachers. The way of the world, particularly in societies that were once influenced by the Church, is directly connected to the straying from and down right denial of biblical truth. This meeting or conference is the fruit.
Pastor, and his congregation, should have known these two were living in sin and promptly address it. If they refused to repent, discipline should have been administered. If repentance didn't manifest; excommunicate. Very simple. Don't bemoan his violated " religious rights", bemoan his ignorance for not knowing his congregation.
Augustine' s Confessions and City of God stand head and shoulders above all other ancient texts. Not only did he speak to what IS, he pointed to the great I AM . Thank God for His work through Augustine.
Mike H, No animosity or attempt to stir things up. This is a forum to discuss and/or debate. It is good to have our faith tried, its iron sharpening iron. You make good points; but some have been questionable, hence my disagreement. Nonetheless, we serve Christ; thereby making us brothers.
US, You're creating a false dilemma. The conversation is grounded in the INTENT of the preacher. He stated the purpose of his SPEECH, to break a record. He indicted himself, how's that hopping on the high horse? Just because we add "doing it for cause" doesn't mean it necessarily gets divine approval. According to HIS will, not ours.
SteveR, Remenber the girl in the NT who was yelling and proclaiming that Paul was a man of God, of which Paul told her to be silent. Or, when Jesus commanded us to do not take the LORD'S name in vain and not to throw pearls to the swine. The preacher unequivocally stated his intention was to break a SPEECH record. His words, not our jealousy.
Runethegoon and Humble Pie, After reading the thread from yesterday and today, I see the points you are making. The devil, and demons, only acts according to the will of God. Therefore, they cannot possess unless God decrees, according to HIS will. The casting out of demons and all divine power working through men served as a fulfillment of God's purpose and, again, validating that He is God alone and those men are servants of God. God doesn't give gifts for the gift's sake, or even for our sake. He does it for His glory and to accomplish his will. Understanding scripture doesn't mean we claim expertise; but is indicative of the indwelling Holy Spirit.
Mike H, I have to disagree with your blanket statement about casting out demons. I do NOT disagree with the premise that, if God enables, true believers could exorcise demons. The interpretive center of gifts, of any gift, is purpose and sovereignty of God. The casting out of demons by Christ and Apostles was the benchmark, the validation that Christ is God and the Apostles were hand selected by Jesus to spread the gospel. God does not give those gifts for the mere exorcizing of demons or physical healing of people. It would turn into a sidesshow, eclipsing the merciful hand of God. If there were true exorcism and healing taking place, a great awakening would necessarily occur.
Alice, Thank you for your balanced and humble response. Sometimes we are guided by moral law of the world, especially here in the West. We bemoan certain laws, statements, and a persons oath, but forget the Sovereignty and Grace of God. I suppose Israel should have voted David out of the Monarchy because of his complicit actions in Uriah's murder and his adulterous relationship with Bathsheba. Whether any President is a Christian, truly, like any of us, is left in the hands of God. But, to assume they are not because they have failings and are on the wrong side of an issue does NOT disqualify them. To do so is to contradict scripture and deny grace for someone while presuming it for ourselves.