13 For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, 14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee. 15 And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise. 16 For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife. 17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: 18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: 19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; 20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Actually, there is nothing much at all on what the babies went through other than a plcture which does make someone sick. What bothered me the most is the fact these women are crying about what was done to THEM by this evil doctor, not the horrific thing this evil man did to the precious baby. The article actually stated what different ways this man abused them and he failed to dispose of the fetuses properly. That's what he got in trouble for, not killing babies at the requests of the women.
Ex-Catholic Journal wrote: Crucifix Definition: A sacramental depicting the crucifixion of Jesus that is typically hung on walls and worn as jewelry. Sacramentals are religious objects or practices that resemble the sacraments. They are used to invoke the intercession of the Church. While they do not impart grace to the same degree as the sacraments, sacramentals make the person more disposed to receive grace. A crucifix can be used as an amulet for protection from evil....
, excerpt from Entry on Crucifix. It's really excellent John Y., you should go read it. Protestants don't have crucifixes, or other pagan amulets like the Romish Church. Christ is arisen, so it's obscene to depict him on a cross -- as far as Protestants (Christians) are concerned.
Idolatry was always the great sin that provoked the Lord to anger against Israel. While Moses was in the mountain to receive the two tables of stone(the law),the people of Israel were corrupting themselves with a golden calf. Three thousand of them were slain because of this great sin. Exodus 32.
John Yurich USA wrote: It is not idolatry to own a Crucifix, a picture and statue of Jesus
Why do Roman Catholics, and other "religious" people, wear the crucifix?
Is it for ornamental reasons? Jewelry? Looks good? Makes you feel macho? Makes you look effeminate? Is it because its a symbol of your local team? Is it because it keeps you warm in winter? Is it because its Friday? Is it because you want to impress others with? Is it because it makes a statement?
Or is it because it makes a religious statement about who you think you are - "In Christ"???
Are you a better Christian because you wear the crucifix which btw 'IS' a "graven image." Whether you like it or not. "Graven image" simply means a hand carved image.
The reasons behind icons and crucifixes is to REPRESENT Christ. No doubt there. Therefore it is a graven image of Christ. It has meaning for the religious wearer. It means the wearer acknowledges the image and venerates and reveres the person represented. By their wearing the image they uphold the person to be "Son of God" and acknowledge His divine attributes.
That is worship. = "Idolatry" IAW Exod 20:4. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing"
mourner wrote: Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
"... or any likeness of any thing [...] that is in the earth beneath..."
Respectfully, sister, do you have a wedding picture or pictures of your loved ones?
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
When this commandment was given to Moses men did make them, bow down to them and worship them. The majority of men did. Abraham was called out from among them to be separate and do differently. Their neighbors did make, bow down to and worship various created things. Romans 1 makes it clear that this is a rejection of general revelation and brings God's just displeasure on men. It spirals down from not worshiping and serving the Creator, to worshiping the creature and finally to reprobation.
Historically the Church has addressed this important issue. Those who violate this commandment are said to hate God and reap generational curses for 3-4 generations. If it is so important an issue, then it has been made clear. Back sliding from what has already been attained leads to apostasy.
Actually, there's some who think that teaching and using a 450 year-old Bible is the way to go, and pastors don't need to know Greek and Hebrew, wrong
Martin Luther wrote: If through our neglect we let the languages go (God forbid!), we shall lose the gospel too. It is inevitable that unless the languages remain, the gospel must finally perish.
When our faith is held up to ridicule, where does the fault lie? It lies in our ignorance of the languages; and there is no way out than to learn the languages. It is also a stupid undertaking to attempt to gain an understanding of Scripture by laboring through the commentaries of the fathers and a multitude of books and glosses. Instead of this, men should have devoted themselves to the languages.
OUTSTANDING! (as usual) Only a fearless preacher of God's Word would have the courage to speak on the most politically-incorrect man in American history. Yes, would that we had men in leadership today of the character of Davia, Lee, Jackson, Forrest, Claiborne.
Doraa, I'm glad you liked my comment on the other thread, about Light Fingered Franny. However, it should be pointed out,
Luke 16:10 "He who is faithful in a very little thing is faithful also in much; and he who is unrighteous in a very little thing is unrighteous also in much. 16:11 "If therefore you have not been faithful in the use of unrighteous mammon, who will entrust the true riches to you? 16:12 "And if you have not been faithful in the use of that which is another's, who will give you that which is your own?---NASB
I would assume this crucifix/fetish should have went to the family of the man, unless they specifically said it should be buried with him.
Dorcas wrote: I take it then Lurker you believe to have so called "pictures" of the Lord is not condemned by holy writ? Not wanting to argue...just wondering?
I didn't say or imply that, sister. I have none in my house and personally don't approve of them for the same reason Christopher noted.... we have no idea of His likeness.
My point was, if one believes having pictures of heavenly things is a violation of the second commandment then the same manner of interpreting the commandment must apply to earthly things and things in the sea as well.
I have a picture of a myself holding a huge red snapper I caught years ago off the Alaska coast. I neither worship it nor do I bow down to it but by an even handed interpretation of the second commandment some would impose, I'm breaking the second commandment.
Another thing to consider. If, as Paul states, by the righteousness of Christ in us all the law is fulfilled by loving God and neighbor.... how should we reconcile that simple truth to the letter of the second commandment? Just something to think about.
"Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind."