Come on now, I don't get embarassed over just anything...ha-ha. : / Anyway, "I think" can be translated as simply being my opinion. I don't believe everything is concrete and written in stone, believing there can be gray areas. Paul talks about something being okay for his conscience but not necessarily for someone elses, etc. I could go on with causing others to sin even though something may not be sin for us, etc, but working right now. I appreciate your and anyone elses comments and opinions, etc.
Christopher000 wrote: I think ... I think ... I think ... I think ... I think ... I really think there's no right or wrong, ... I always think it's really important to listen to the other side though in case we're not seeing something quite as clearly as we think.
Friend, though your last sentence contains good advice, you have repeated so many times the words 'I think' in your post, that one is tempted to conclude if what God thinks about matters is of any relevance!
Forgive this, but there is a concrete realm of right and wrong in any matter. Conviction is the solidification of one's personal understanding about what is right and approved in God's sight in a particular matter. It is often safe to figure out if a personal *conviction* is chosen or based on convenience, non-submission, cultural baggage, ethnic setting, personal agenda, preferred life-style, or rebellion.
The philosophy of 'no right or wrong' is prevalent in neo-evangelicalism. However, is not conducive to God's revelation per definition.
Trust you do not mind these reflective comments. No intent to embarrass you, friend, just sharing truth with your best interest in mind.
Argh. These people give me such a sick feeling in my stomach. I don't know who here grew up in or lives in an inner city, but these types are really set apart from many of the others. They are filled with pure hatred, their debauchery knows no limits, and they are usually either gross in appearance or extremely flamboyant. The best example I can think of for the hatred part is Elton John if anyone has ever seen him go off on a woman for no apparent reason. For the other charactoristics, I think the old Perez Hilton is a perfect example. These types are just creepy and always make me very uncomfortable. Anyway, like the lesbian owner said, she hopes the court side with Adamson because it would mean Christians going into their stores and wanting anti-sodomy printwork, etc. Such a double standard and a bunch of litigious hypocrites.
I think the bare bones, bottom line is that we are all unique individuals who will always and forever just see some things differently. Many things are crystal clear because God speaks to them directly and clearly. With other things, I think we need to use proper judgement, looking honestly at the pros and cons, and listening fairly to the points of view of those that are in opposition in case there's something our brain isn't seeing clearly. I think if anything is at all questionable, it should be avoided to be safe. I think if we're okay with it but someone else isn't, we should avoid doing it or endorsing it in their company. I think there are many things that we'll disagree on simply because of personal life experiences that leave us with differing thoughts in this or that. Sometimes I really think there's no right or wrong, just personal conviction. I always think it's really important to listen to the other side though in case we're not seeing something quite as clearly as we think.
B. McCausland wrote: a/ arguments to ridiculous 'bare thread' positions
b/ as the Pharisees did with Christ
Some further clarification to avoid misunderstanding
a/ The concept alluded above wishes to convey the idea of *threadbare*, as of having in a fabric, or garment, the nap worn off so as to lay bare the threads of the warp and woof.
b/ The Gospels bring often to the surface the argumentative attitude of the Pharisees sustained for the sake of obduracy or self-justification. For instance the lawyer asking, "and who is my neighbor?' in Luk 10:29 "But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?"
Please, with no intent to cause personal offence here, may it be stated that arguing against facts/truth is often a sign of non-submissive will. See Jh 7:17
"If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself"
As Armen Thomassin states in the sermon forwarded in the previous post:
"By humility comes wisdom, and by submission you get understanding". Such factors were missing in the Pharisees make up. Only when we submit to God's will we are in the position to attain to sound instruction.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Sister Thanks for your response
Friend, for lack of space in the previous post, the following is included here to foward some clarifications.
1. No one is *against* sport per se, but against lust and the pride of life attached to some present settings of entertainment. Surely, and as stated before, there was much not acceptable in the games of Paul's time, yet Scripture does not commend such undesirable insights, only the main beneficial idea is borrowed. In the same way perhaps, some have expressed here their personal concerns about the matter.
2. Without intent to insult, the pharisaical spirit shows up in divers modes in discussions. For instance, one party accuses the other of Pharisaical 'holier than thou' attitude, while all the time this same party endevours to *trip* the ones they critizise as the Pharisees did with Christ, often denying the obvious for self-justification, and bringing arguments to ridiculous 'bare thread' positions. See Jh 7:14-24
This sermon deals with that passage: 'Astounding Statements from the Christ of God' by Brother Armen Thomassian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC-eemYAAQs
Trust you may be blessed by the godliness displayed in the above dissertation Grace be unto you
There are some enemies of the accepted view of scripture who would try to tell us that the Bible "contains" the word of God. In other words, if you read the scriptures, you may find God's word there, somewhere. Such say that God's word is "in the Bible", which for me anyway is an incorrect view and part of the apostate plan of the devil to get folks to doubt the word of God.
But a simple statement like: "the Bible is the word of God", is far better, because it means that whatever Psalm you are reading, whatever Prophet you are studying, whatever Gospel or Epistle you are in, the words that you are reading are the words of God, trustworthy and true, and therefore ought to be heeded, obeyed, rested on, trusted in, and in general be edified and sanctified by.