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11/7/06 1:46 PM |
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Freewiller, with all due respect, you do not understand Calvinism, Fatalism (a completely different animal, if you bothered to read any of the material I posted links to), or Spurgeon, for that matter. I take that back. I think you DO understand Fatalism, but that's all you seem to understand, and have no idea how it differs from Calvinism such as Spurgeon taught. And from your other conversations, you are completely wrapped-up in a works-based carnal system of fleshly religiosity and artificially manufactured righteousness that you seem convinced will totally please a superlatively Holy God even as you reject the divine and infinite righteousness of the God-Man Jesus Christ that alone can save your soul. Sir (or Madam, or whoever you are), you simply have a fatal allergy towards the truth. May God have mercy on your soul. |
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11/7/06 1:38 PM |
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No, Discerned Believer. Calvinism is simply a system. Even if it itself proves incorrect, it is not my heart's desire to blaspheme God or cast aspersions on His Holy character. You are unfairly judging my motives, which you do not know, and I am not reciprocating. I believe you wish to defend God's honor and integrity, and believe you me, I admire that. I just think that your theological system, based on freewill, is wrong. And if I wanted to be mean (and unfair, to boot) I could do the same as you do and say that you blaspheme God by your attributing to His nature and character your theological system. The knife cuts both ways, my friend. I do not depend on John Calvin, and God does not either. I simply meant to affirm God's absolute predestination of all events, including the ironic fact that such a theological system as Calvinism would bear the name of one it has no real dependence on or origin from. And you do not seem to realize this. |
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11/7/06 12:48 PM |
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I forgot to add this. Every OT and NT saint that has died and gone on to glory, as well as every sinner OT or NT that has died, they are all to the man, woman, or child, unrepentant eternal Calvinists. Every saint in Glory can only praise the free grace of God that mercifully elected them unto salvation before the foundation of the world. And every sinner roasting in Hell glorifies God that His wrath and eternal condemnation of vessels fitted only for destruction are fully and eternally satisfied. And even the angels themselves are elect according to God's sovereignty, according to 1 Timothy 5:21, though I still need more study of the issue. Bottom line: God can do whatever He wants, and whatever He does is good by definition, because He is the author and enforcer of goodness.See? Arius, Pelagius, the Wesley brothers, Jacob Arminius, Charles Finney, et al, have all repented and know the truth now. |
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11/7/06 12:34 PM |
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And God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, as well as all the writers of the Bible and the Apostles themselves, are all still Calvinists regardless. It's just no one would be calling them such, as the theological label invented to describe it would be different. However, God in His rich sovereignty chose not only to reveal His Calvinism and the beauty and majesty of Sovereign Grace, He also chose "Calvinism" as the official moniker, if you will (or even if you won't). I personally couldn't have cared less about John Calvin when I first became a Calvinist, and I am developing only historical interest now. I will not be worshipping at the Shrine of Calvin dedicated to a man with moral failures who in some ways may have been weak on the sovereignty of God in the Atonement doctrine of Christ, or at least did not fully express Limited Atonement as fully as I would have preferred. I didn't become a Calvinist because of John Calvin. Most Calvinists don't (in fact, every single fellow Calvinist I've ever spoken to, uses the Bible for his or her defense of Calvinism). In short, we're Calvinists simply because it's Biblical. |
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11/7/06 12:34 PM |
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Discerned Believer, you said:(begin quote) When comments are made that Jesus, who is God by the way, is a Calvinist, you are attributing the same nature and character of John Calvin to a holy and divine omnipotent, onmisceint and omnipresent God. You have literally made a god out of Calvin. (end quote) My goodness! DB, simple logic escapes you, I see. I have done no such thing as you accuse here, and though you might be blind to my defense, I will defend my actions here. I in no way attribute the nature and character of John Calvin to God or Jesus Christ by affirming that above. Calvinism is simply a theological nickname for a doctrinal system that itself was neither invented nor depends on John Calvin, though by some ironic twists of fate (GASP! I said, "fate" that must mean I'm a secret fatalist showing my true colors a la Freewillicker...No, it's merely a figure of speech) has had his name loaned to the system historically. If John Calvin had never been born, Calvinism would still exist. We would just be calling it something else. |
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11/6/06 11:04 PM |
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Ted Haggard's fall from grace is sobering evidence that the judgment of God is a present-day reality and continuing certainty, bringing the following Scriptures to mind:1 Peter 4:16-18 (New American Standard Bible) 16 but if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God in this name. 17 For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18 AND IF IT IS WITH DIFFICULTY THAT THE RIGHTEOUS IS SAVED, WHAT WILL BECOME OF THE GODLESS MAN AND THE SINNER? http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Peter%204:16-18;&version=49; |
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11/6/06 9:50 PM |
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Christ's death on the cross actually accomplished our redemption of sin, though we are not justified by it until the Spirit of God transforms us by grace unto faith, according to the merciful election of the one Holy God. Christ's resurrection from the tomb secures our future hope of eternal life and deliverance from death and corruption, which are the wages and just penalty of sin. From your postings, you confess that your only hope is in your temporal, finite flesh which was born fallen in Adam and corrupt in sin, and that somehow, a life of less than sinless perfection of mere external fleshly obedience to religious rules and regulations performed within a finite sphere of time is sufficient to please an infinitely Holy God, and purchase eternal life in a glorified exalted state in the very presence of the Divine. Why do you not simply trust Christ? Why do you find Christ insufficient to purchase God's grace and mercy for you, and impotent to change the very core of your being, the soul, by His wondrous and transforming grace? |
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11/6/06 9:50 PM |
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9/11/Dwayne/Freewiller:You have three problems, though surely you would protest all three of these observances of mine. You have a low view of God. You have a low view of sin. You have a high view of man (much higher than that of God, in fact). Because you accuse Biblical doctrine of gnostic antinomianism, you reveal not only your ignorance of soteriology, but evidence of your complete unfamiliarity with the Gospel itself: that the righteousness of Christ alone is sufficient, that salvation is by Grace alone, and that this is accomplished by Faith alone (with no confidence in the flesh, and no expectation that carnal works can ever please a thrice-Holy God). If you cannot understand that Grace of God the Father converts and transforms the sinner in his or her carnality into a saint of Jesus Christ and a life of holiness made possible and certain by divine energy of the Holy Spirit alone, that makes me sorrowfully suspect that you are not a recipient of that Grace and a vessel of that transformation wrought by God. If you are unfamiliar to the Biblical Gospel, you may very well be a complete stranger to it. And I do not mean that unkindly, but soberly. |
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