John Yurich Wrote: I feel convicted and repulsed when I hear the parts of the Mass that mention the Mass being a sacrifice and the intercession of the Virgin Mary and the Saints.
Well, that's good to hear anyway...I didn't know that. Maybe those convictions will get stronger and stronger with time. A piece of good fruit here and there shouldn't fool us into thinking it's good to eat when we can see that the rest of the tree is rotted and over run with bugs and disease.
Anyway, interesting conversation, and again, the level of knowledge is impressive. It's been brought to my attention that I haven't responded to some comments, whether from last week or recently, I'm not sure. I use the smartphone app and as older threads disappear, maybe that's why I'm missing them. For example, Observer sent me a comment from Helps last week that I never even saw. Anyway, sorry if I haven't responded to some things...not intentional. As for emails, they are deserving of much more than a sentence or two so I have to wait for the mental energy to crank those out, plus alone time when the wife isn't around.
My head is still spinning over Lurkers comment about the moon. What's it made of then? Rocks and dirt? Now I'm wondering what else I've had wrong...
SteveR Write: "Im glad that the RCC still reads the Lords Prayer, too many independent baptist churches wont. They say it the 'apostles' prayer and that the kingdom was declined. So sad that the RCC is MORE Biblical in this way than many Protestant Churches today."
Steve, I think it's wrong to continue giving John little nuggets of affirmation by defending the system he holds so dearly because he's shy. Every time you defend the church of Rome, you're condoning and strengthing his position, in his mind, because it makes him think you agree that there's no reason for him to come out as a born again Christian. No matter how much you hate everyone, you know that the mass itself and aligning oneself with the false doctrines of Rome while claiming to be a born again Christian is to defy the very God you claim to embrace.
Lurker wrote: Steve surely is a piece of work. ...I'm probably the only person on this board who gives him the benefit of the doubt that he's a Christian. Yet he tries every dirty trick in the book to make me out to be a heretic...
I wrote you a couple days ago. Hope you got that.
SteveR sure is a devil. Not sure how you reckon him to be a Christian, but I respect your right to be wrong!
Enforced uniformity Presby style certainly means a licence to kill nonconformists. Read the WCF, for instance:
The civil magistrate may not assume to himself the administration of the Word and sacraments, or the power of the keys of the kingdom of heaven: yet he hath authority, and it is his duty, to take order, that unity and peace be preserved in the Church, that the truth of God be kept pure and entire; that all blasphemies and heresies be suppressed; all corruptions and abuses in worship and discipline prevented or reformed; and all the ordinances of God duly settled, administered, and observed. For the better effecting whereof, he hath power to call synods, to be present at them, and to provide that whatsoever is transacted in them be according to the mind of God.
Of course the magistrate has to be Presby himself!! Doh!
Right Carl, and it's been subtle. So subtle that the church is now at the point where heresy isn't easily detected because they have been dumbed down spiritually. Dumbed down to the point where comments like these actually sound good because so many have put their bibles aside to listen to whatever comes forth from the mouths of men; comprimised words that have very subtly and cunningly pushed God to the side, making Him less and less important as man rises and redefines what God really wants and means.
...And afterwards she leads the congregation in prayer. There should have been a mass exodus after those remarks; but it wasn't. Scary! But the American chapter of the great falling away has been going on for years.
The article says "Abortion clinic owners had one year to upgrade their facilities to meet these basic requirements, which includes having adequate plumbing, heating, lighting and ventilation, and equipment that can properly sterilize surgical instruments; ensuring that the doors to the facilities can accommodate stretchers for emergencies; and maintain a sanitary facility to ensure the health and safety of patients."
I'm starting to wonder if there is a new disease out there called abortion fever that not only kills babies but also seeks to put the lives of women at risk while numbing the intellect of our judges and making a ton of money doing it. Seriously, someday someone is going to get away with opening an abortion clinic in a women's public restroom at your local gas station. Seems like the liberals want Gossnell's clinic to be the new standard and he be released and called a hero of women in Philadelphia.
âWhat youâve just said is one of the most insanely, idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul.â This quote pretty much says it all. I pity Osteen's audience.
John Yurich USA wrote: I feel convicted and repulsed when I hear the parts of the Mass that mention the Mass being a sacrifice and the intercession of the Virgin Mary and the Saints. But I just don't pay attention to those parts of the Mass. I only participate in the scriptural parts of the Mass. And thus if I refrain from participating in the unscriptural parts to the Mass and only participate in the scriptural parts to the Mass then I am not having fellowship with darkness.
John, if you are truly "convicted and repulsed" by parts of the mass, then I urge you to leave and renounce the RC"C". Learn what the Bible teaches and find a church that is faithful to God's word.