I believe there is a direct correlation between the flaunting of decadence in our nation and the contemporary disdain for the Bible.

The Bible was the solid foundation for the founding of this country and we are now paying with the consequences for seeking wisdom elsewhere.

ARTICLE Q.
HOLY BIBLE TO BE READ IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

400th. edition.
Of this tradition.

A loyal Brit. mocks.
Old Guy Fawkes.

While old red socks.
Will silence the talks.

Effigies for the Roman plot.
Assure it will never be forgot.

Historical carols.
For 36 barrels.

I did not have time to read McArthurs entire presentation but this puts the recent Man. Declaration into perspective.
This so-called evangelical leaders truly believe that Rome has the gospel and that their adherents are believers! ! !

Right on. Of course it is easy for Papa Paul and Rome to state that action leads to faith here because performance is their sandy foundation and craftiness is their creed.

They speak of a Christ who died for sin but of course it was imperfect and therefore insufficient. Not realizing that He is our righteousness and our Lamb of God, without spot and blemish they go onward and downward without a Biblical total confidence and eternal hope.

I believe you may be missing the issue and points by many.

Who besides the many evangelical believers(some liberal, of course)is included "as believers" in the signing of this document?

ROME and its adherents!

If you review the other S.A. breaking news in regards to the Man. Dec. you will notice the same kind of belief by Timothy George, et al., who speak of Roman Catholics (doctrine included)"as fellow Christians"!

If they wanted solidarity, numbers, unity, etc. then why did they ONLY include R.Cath. and not the other cults?
Simple: some liberal evangelicals do not consider Rome a cult or non Christian.

The church at large is in a very weak state when it can be found compromising on the doctrine of justification.

I have just read some of the declaration.

J. Mac. has rightly stated that their is an implicit assumption that R. Catholics, et al., are Christians, eg., "...fellow believers...", "...As Christians...", "...we claim the heritage of...Christians...".

Would you object if these clause were written in the declaration with the exception that Jehovah Witnesses and/or
Seventh Day Adventists and/or the Mormons were fellow signatories instead of the Roman Catholics?

Listen, O creation!
Concerning a nation.
Animals - yoke and bit.
Instinct - no real wit.
Children, I have raised.
I call, yet, they look dazed.

Burdened with their sins.
Evildoers with their grins.
Generations act corruptly.
Cursings fall abruptly.
From Him, they have turned.
To them, He has spurned.

Beatings, you do not like.
Why then force me to strike.
Your whole body is ill.
Yet, you defy Me still.
Desolate and with strangers.
Once safe - now with dangers.

If not for the Lord of Hosts.
We'd be frightened by Sodom's ghosts.
God's Word, you must hear.
Rulers without fear.
God's Law, alleluia!
People of Gomorrah.

Your sacrifices of fluff.
I the Lord, have had enough.
Blood of bulls, I am not pleased.
At righteousness you sneezed.
In prayer you have cried.
From you, I did hide.

T'is this that I delight.
Do no evil and do right.
Let us consider.
A guilty litter.
Sins as dark as night.
Shall be bleached pure white.

I have been visiting and commenting on S.A. for almost 2 years now and if you go back during that period you will see G.G. kept repeating the same Roman doctrines that had already been most soundly rebutted. It is all written down for you

But, for your interest here is one that I do not believe was mentioned. Rome of course gives tradition(which has many forms, btw)equal authority with Holy Scripture. One of the highest forms of its tradition are the church fathers. In regards to apostolic succession they of course cite, Irenaeus, as a primary source.

However, he definitely cannot be trusted because he stated in his,"Against Heresies", that BOTH Paul and Peter founded the church at Rome!
How does Rome deal with this? They simply state that HE WAS IN ERROR on that point but when it serves to further their cult they of course say he was not in error.
Of course, Irenaeus was in error before such as when he stated that Jesus did not die until he was in his fifties!

You should really spend the time to research how G.G. was rebutted a year or two back over and over but he kept on repeating the same old speal.

Nice try. These same foolish assertions have been rebutted over and over again. Once again, you may want to return to the earlier popish forums here on Sermon Audio. Or if you wish we may "once again" go over these one by one.

The false church of Rome.
Suffocating under the dome.

When it came to the Bible.
Infamous cult, chose to bridle.

Bible reading, today more lenient.
Becaue now it's more convenient.

They throw in the scare.
With - DON'T YOU DARE!

An attempt to explicate.
May result in excommunicate.

Many a satanic minion.
Influence of one Roman opinion.

Sinful man called a pope.
He'll interpret, while holding the rope.

Choose Christ, if you have breath.
Roman fate, is eternal death.

The eternal, Lord God, Almighty, has made man in His image and given him the creation mandate of dominion over all of creation and in a sense is crowned with glory and majesty. However, God the eternal, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient, HIS NAME ALONE is majestic and deserves all glory and honor.

"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."
Revelation 4:11

As Michael said, worship the Lamb and not the Lady!!!

"And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever."
Revelation 5:13

Mary, does not desire worship today and never has. She would not want people to make idols of her to worship her like foolish Nebuchadnezzar had made of himself, who having his reason restored gave praise and honor to God the Most High, the King of heaven
Daniel 4:34,35

John Owen on justification resembles N.T. Wright! What???

Intervarsity Staff took students to a Mass! What???

I wonder where these liberal Amer. Presbyterians of the 1800,s who considered recognizing Rome's baptism are today?

Mr. Alec Hill, you might try:
"By faith alone, In Jesus Christ alone."
To be honest, it is watered-down, if any Roman is not offended and does not feel a need to leave Rome and her false teaching on justification.

Referring to Rome as a cult is important because it deceives, eg., Mark 16:16, they take out of context and only use the first half of the verse and convince their adherents to do likewise.

We may take this a verse at a time if you prefer.

Acts 2:38
The word "for" is the greek preposition, eis. It may also be translated "because of".
Notice the repentance at Ninevah.

Matt. 12:41
"The men of Nineveh shall stand up with this generation at the judgment and shall condemn it, BECAUSE they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and behold, something greater than Jonah is here."

Eis is the word translated as because.
They repented BECAUSE of the preaching of Jonah.

According to, "Wuest's Word Studies" from the Greek New Testament for the English Reader, the correct and more clear translation of Peter's plea at Pentecost is,"Repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ BECAUSE of the remission of sins."

As you will see this is in total harmony with the rest of Scripture.

"He that BELIEVETH on the Son 'HATH'
eternal life : and he that 'BELIEVETH
NOT' the Son shall not see life; but
the wrath of God abideth on him."

Your responses agree with Rome that according to her one is born-again through baptism.

Similar to all cults they love to pull out one Scripture, and twist it by taking it out of context normally and fail to garner the true meaning by referencing all the Scripture.

The entire verse of Mark 16:16says thus:
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

Water baptism throughout Scripture flows naturally from one's belief in Christ but is NOT a condition for salvation. You can search the Scripture(please do for your own benefit)and you will NOT FIND ONE REFERENCE THAT ONE IS CONDEMNED BECAUSE OF NOT BEING BAPTIZED! ! !

One will spend eternity being punished and suffering in hell because of his
unbelief. Super holy men, holy water, holy oil, etc., are not necessary but the binding doctrines of the men of Rome.

For any human being to say that the death on the cross of the spotless, eternal, Lamb of God was sufficient for eternal life, and that through belief in his vicarious atonement for sin that one then has eternal life is the sin of presumption, according to the Rome!

John 3:36

Like all cults the Roman system is man-centered.

Roman practices - pagan.
Again and again.

Pray to this MAN for wealth.
Look! This one will give you health.

Of course, we need no reminder.
St. Christopher hoax, still needs a finder.

When pagan Rome does paint.
She can create a saint.