Troll Spotter wrote: You really are a dumb unthinking troll.
Troll Spotter you are so perceptive. I am going to prove you right.
God (2 Timothy 3:16) made me understand that I was counted by Him an unjust man from both the Old and New Testament:
Ecclesiastes 7:20 KJV
For there is not a just man upon earth that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Romans 3:10 KJV
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
You do see Troll Spotter do you not how God reveals to me through Ecclesiastes 7:20 and Romans 3:10, the Old Testament and the New Testament that He has counted me an unjust, unrighteous man?
What God has revealed to me you have counted "dumb unthinking". Thus you have in fact called God Almighty "dumb" and "unthinking" which would explain why you don't want any part of giving your testimony of how the Holy Spirit saved you as I invited you to do in my 10/24/14 1:30 PM post.
Do you actually have a testimony to give Troll Spotter? I have never seen anyone so reluctant to give a testimony for Jesus Christ as you. Can it be that it is because you really don't have one to give?
John for JESUS wrote: The problem with Calvinism is it is a philosophy of fatalism dressed up in Christianity. It contradictory of the love of God for the world and makes Him appear unjust by exercising wrath on a group of people who supposedly have an irresistible urge to not believe in Him, no fault of their own. The fault only lays on Adam. God's love for the select is made out to be a whimsical choice.
Talk about setting up ignorant caricatures as straw men. And I say this as no great admirer of Mr Calvin.
The problem with Calvinism is it is a philosophy of fatalism dressed up in Christianity. It contradictory of the love of God for the world and makes Him appear unjust by exercising wrath on a group of people who supposedly have an irresistible urge to not believe in Him, no fault of their own. The fault only lays on Adam. God's love for the select is made out to be a whimsical choice.
I am of peter, i am of paul. please people! let us rely on the holy spirit to draw us closer to christ and the father, not the traditions of man
Yes, a very good post Servant from US! Let's stop with this division and naysaying, and let's unite on the things that are true, and that we can all agree on! No more of this badmouthing Calvanists, or bad mouthing Armenians! If somebody foolishly attacks us in this way, we can defend our beliefs, but let's not be the agressors! Let's be the ones who will come together in times of trouble or need, not tear eachother up! The Bible says to love even our enemies! We're aren't enemies, so how much more should we love eachother!
Mike of N.Y., when have I ever called the liberal churches Christian? I think I always had a bad for the United Methodist Church --as an organization-- and one I have been happy to come from, see my latest entry in the Capital Punishment thread that I have just entered a comment on before this one.
So, why should I tell a liberal church to get out of a behavior, when their behavior as behaving like an actual Christian Church is completely lacking, and I don't consider them even Christian?
Good time Charlie, you wrote:"... there is a lot of Scripture in the Bible that you could have quoted that God could have used to save Taylor Swift and..." It's never in anyone's power or in particular quotes which can aid in salvation. It is only by His Spirit which draws and by His Word (the power unto salvation)...no "magic formulas".. or, if only such and such Scripture had been spoken. Christians are just instruments. And, one is not drawn to the Lord through music. Music,in fact,is highly overrated in the church. What you will find, however,in styles of music which are more appealing to the ear or flesh and in the churches which use them, is a "form of godliness which is just a facade". One either walks in the Spirit or the flesh...it's not possible to walk in both at the same time.
William S. Sutherland wrote: pennned, According to the tax code a church is tax exempt
I sure would be blessed if we could find a church like that... how does that theoretically work then, would a non-corporate fellowship pay normal land taxes if they had a location (assuming not renting) or taxes on income when they might provide support to their teachers? That's just a general question I've been wondering about.
I think you were there just at the right time for your friends. This would be corrected if Christian beneficiaries bought out properties, but the denominations would be gone then. I'm sure the Lord has plans of His own, which will be revealed in the hearts of the faithful over time.
Gil Rugh wrote: Genesis 9:6 gives us the first and simplest direction relating to capital punishment....
In this passage, God gives the right of capital punishment to man. If someone commits murder, they are required to die. In the debate over capital punishment, some say,... Ultimately, the right to take a human life belongs only to God, but God has also chosen to delegate this responsibility to man...
pennned, According to the tax code a church is tax exempt whether they have a 501c3 exemption or not, so there is NO NEED and certainly NO BIBLICAL WARRANT for any church of the LORD JESUS CHRIST to seek such an exemption from the IRS.
I have a friend who was starting a church in Galveston and he was going to apply for a 501c3 until I told him it was unnecessary. He didn't and he has never had a problem. He became friends with a patsor of an old Baptist Church in Houston which also had no 501c3. It is the devil's lie that churches need this and it has hamstrung many from preaching the truth because of fear of what the IRS might do.
"He seems to be the exception that proves the rule," in more ways than one. Just looking at his name and his location you would think he's Catholic. Oh, and he was also appointed by the Democrats, but seems to me we have had a thread on SA where His Unholiness Franny, wants to get into bed with queers. But perhaps, Franny is being two-faced with liberals also. It is said that he said, "same-sex marriage is an â€˜anthropological regressionâ€™" which is quite true by the way. Oh, that quotation came from, http://liberapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Pope_Francis an entertaining for a religious conservative such as myself. So, perhaps this judge is actually reading through Franny's political maneuverings?
Jim Lincoln wrote: No, Mike of N.Y --- The Christian Right Movement is a disaster for the mission of Christians! ' "The Reconstructionist movement and its allies and offshoots, by substituting political and cultural action for the proclamation of the Gospel, by substituting eschatology for soteriology, and by mangling the Gospel itself, have become tools of Romanist political action" (3/02, The Trinity Review).' excerpt from, Notes on Reconstructionism Conservative Christians are overlooking The Inadequacy of Moralism and of political action. Dominion Theology/Kingdom Now/Reconstructionismis an anti-Biblical curse.
Ah Jim, if you were honestly independent, you would see it's theChristian Left Movement that goes for government involvement in "social justice," healthcare, welfare, etc. How is it you never call for them to get out of politics?
"I see a lot of misrepresentations of Reformed theology"
I see a lot of misrepresentation of the Bible, and a to the death type of pride and a refusal to repent among people inside the Reformed TRADITION, just like their forefathers in THE ROMAN CATHOLIC TRADITION, who also have the same type of TO THE DEATH type of refusal to repent, and and entire EMPIRE of delusionists who spend their ENTIRE LIFETIMES in both TRADITIONS writing heretical books in which they ramble on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on in order to attempt to justify their heresies which none of them will EVER repent of, since hundreds and hundreds of years of their TRADITION makes them go to the death continuing it rather than repenting and starting ALL OVER.
Mar 7:9 Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men