Carl in Greensboro wrote: We should be careful in revealing our biases.
Carl, yes we should be careful in not simply stating our biases. Now, how do you know that Phoebe had the same spiritual duties as this lady who is noted as a minister in the article? If you say she was a minister (Phoebe) in sense that we use the term minister then that would contradict all of what Paul taught regarding women being church leaders. I donâ€™t know exactly, and neither do you, what Phoebeâ€™s duties were, but to say that her duties â€ścould beâ€ť the same as those we refer to as a ministers in todayâ€™s church is stretching things to the limits.
In today's jargon, a minister is someone who was ordained to be some type of church leader.
Great Sermon! I agree!! I don't even watch TV much anymore, cut off satellite, have an antenna for locals and weather...........I have to say that I liked Little House!! I watched it growing up, Walton's too, Brady Bunch, Gilligan's island, Hey, I'm 45, graduated in 87' ........I know Michael Landon didn't live the life of Charles Ingalls(why?) BECAUSE, .....Charles Ingalls IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER!!! Hello ?? AND if the fan club lady reads this, I wasn't happy to learn of Michael Landon's REAL side, and it bothered me a lot.....But it's true!! Pastor Cooley is exposing the lies and corruption the devil sooo subtlety uses.......But, why do you hate him?? For telling the truth?? What happened to King Saul after he went to a witch that talked to familiar spirits( demons/ devils), to talk to the prophet Samuel? I hope you know!! Also, to Hate is to murder!! Hate the Devil, Hate sin, but not the sinner.....I would expect a lost person to say such un-Godly things, but not a so-called (saved) Christian who follows Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour! I will pray for you and that you repent and mean it!! Thank you Pastor Cooley for your love for lost souls and deceived Christians.
Fear mongering from the left wing media blowing it out of proportion, fear mongering from right wing fanatics like Alex Jones insisting that Obama is infecting the US with ebola to usher in martial law. To be honest, I cant help but wonder if the whole thing is a hoax to keep your focus off of something else. Im not saying I believe that, but it is a thought.
Lady_Virtue wrote: GSTexas wrote: "The Idaho case involves Donald and Evelyn Knapp, both ordained ministers" A woman minister? I had the very same thought when I first read the intro.
We should be careful in revealing our biases. If our apostle Paul urges the saints in Rome to "receive in the Lord in a manner worthy of saints" "our sister Phoebe, who is a servant (minister) of the church which is at Cenchrea" then I hope you would have obeyed your (hypothetical) apostle if he would send a Phoebe to you. "Ministry" and "minister" are very broad terms but I consider that we have all been ordained by Christ to be His servants (ministers). All should consider their very public posts here a form of important ministry not only to inform the uninformed but also to show love and respect for our fellow servants. If this brave couple was to seek encouragement to continue the fight for the faith by reading our posts here that would be great. But to stumble and give up because of a careless uninformed comment would be disastrous.
Great Sermon! Satan has been winning the battle in my life on murmuring and complaining. You are right it will destroy you, your home and other relationships. I have determined in my heart to change with God's grace. I am going to listen to this sermon every morning when possible. Thank you.
Pepe wrote: Looks like in the immediate future, marriages will only have to be performed in a church that doesn't have 503c tax exempted status, and by someone one who is not registered as-for-profit-status. Looks like the option for Christians is to get legally married down in the court house by a judge, and then go get married in the forest by a man-of-God Robinhood style. When He comes we will behold Him as He truly is.......both the saved and non-saved. He will set all things right again forever!
Well said Pepe, I agree fully. Churches should have never signed up for 501C3 status. I'm sure they didn't have a clue as to where that would lead them when they first began to do it, but as I have said before, a little leaven does leaven the whole bunch. Anyway, thanks for your comment.
Excellent Message! Much to like and benefit from in this message. I especially liked the four views of man and what each view necessitates in a deliverer... particularly the prevalent religious free-will view that has an impotent (or at best deistic god) and sovereign man. That view necessitates manipulation and control. Great illustration of the dog in the trap.
True, Lord, Son of David... I will gladly take the crumbs that fall from my master's table, knowing I don't even deserve those.
Ebola, Fukishima, WW3, economic collapse, chaos, disorder, anarchy, violence, murder, perversion, on and on and on. Wake up call after wake up call after wake up call. Quarter of a million swept away in the tsunami, similar in the Haiti earthquake. And what happens? You'd think these lunatics just might get the message: all is not well with planet Earth. It's very sick and dying. But no. They just sink deeper and deeper into their la-la land malaise of madness and folly. Amazing.
SteveR, you recently admitted it was wrong of the reformers to baptize (register) the babies of all the heathen "into the church". I wonder what you expected those of the Word to do when the reformers compromised? you have over applied the term "Anabaptist" to a point that it is not historically accurate. That was an evil, they were misrepresenting the Kingdom of God including families who were not believers. The fault rests with them.
Such laws with surely determine who is and who is not an ordained minister. A ordained wedding chapel minister may decide in another job if it gets too hot , but a shepherd of a flock will have no choice but to disobey such laws, Eventually, christian civil disobedience will run it's course, jail and fine will be common place. I can see a time when the U.S. Govt will be spending it's resources looking for the phantom christian army terrorizing bureaucrats and whatever eles is deemed as a protected class of sin.
I completely understand your argument, but notice the 'except' in Esther 4:11. What Im saying is that Queen Vashti behaved in the spirit of civil disobedience against the King, whereas Queen Esther has a history of compliance. Even when she risked her life, the law could have condemned her or not DEPENDING on the Kings discretion
Vashtis civil disobedience Esther 1:12 But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king's commandment by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him. ...1:17 For this deed of the queen shall come abroad unto all women, so that they shall despise their husbands in their eyes, ..
Esthers history of trust earned by obedience Esther 2:15 .. she required nothing but what Hegai the king's chamberlain, the keeper of the women, appointed. And Esther obtained favour in the sight of all them that looked upon her.
Esthers obedience to Mordecai, her people and King knowing full well DISCRETION of the King would decide her fate Esther 4:11 .. who is not called, there is one law of his to put him to death, except such to whom the king shall hold out the golden sceptre, that he may live:
She wasnt depending on civil disobedience, rather the Grace of her husband