Mike wrote: If you ever go to a doctor for medical care or a dentist for a cavity, to a teacher for education, or to a mechanic to service your car, you have trusted in man. And I doubt many make sure they are Bible believers first. I see no difference in choosing a political person to do a political job than in any of the above to do theirs. "Trusting in man" as an excuse to avoid a responsibility that God has in fact privileged us with, is just that, an excuse.
Do we choose a man to become a doctor or to become a teacher? They are already in that profession when we seek their assistance. Voting is nor more a privilege than getting a ticket to a sports game. We cheer if our team wins and curse them if they lose. There's been a whole lot of cursing going on year after year.
With great reluctance, I will vote for Trump because he promised to defend the Second Amendment and to nominate a justice to SCOTUS who is a conservative. Whereas Hillary wants gun control and a reinterpretation of the Second Amendment. I would rather have a profligate in the White House than a woman who thinks she is above the law and is bent on statism and the supremacy of the Federal Government.
Sure, there are other things they can take a stand against, but this was a whopper of a stand-off. I think any time anyone stands against anything right, it's a good thing, no matter how many other wrongs they might be in error on, etc. One thing at a time, and case by case. For them to firmly plant their feet on this issue considering the backlash and lost revenue, well, I'm glad that there are those who will still say, "nope", even under tremendous pressure, and irregardless of the consequences.
The following is from an article on Liberty News Now
Bill Clintonâs Pedophile Connection Devastating For Hillary Elections
by Chuck Hoster - May 16, 2016
The Hillary campaign is freaking out after the media finds out that Bill Clinton traveled the world with a known pedophile on a plane with a bed to have group sex with underage girls.
How many times did Bill fly on this luxury, underage sex slave jet? The flight logs show that Bill Clinton took at least 26 trips on the âLolita Expressâ, a plane owned by Jeffery Epstein who was convicted of solicitation and procurement of minors for prostitution.
This is who former President Bill Clinton was a buddy with. Epstein spent 13 months in prison and home arrest, but it looks like Clinton got off without any tarnish on his public personaâŚ until now.
Fox News broke the story that Clinton spent a lot more time with Epstein than originally thought. The connection between the convicted pimp and Bill Clinton was known, but we are now only learning about the magnitude.
Epstein had an island in the Virgin Islands that was nicknamed âOrgy Islandâ. Virginia Roberts, who at the age of 15 was a sex slave for Epstein and his friends, said that she saw Bill on the island. ...
Mike wrote: Therefore to follow this to its logical conclusion, if your doctor, your dentist, your teacher or your mechanic are found to be self-serving, you should depend on God alone for these things.
Mike like you and SteveR said this is politics and we can't expect all these people to take the stance a Christian would. If there was a Christian candidate that we could vote for then yes by all means vote for them. But unfortunately the vote is wether Trump or Hillary will be the better president, not if they are moral people.
Too bad there aren't even enough nominal Christian leaders who tend this gathering to say, "Hey, I want to attend a local church service while I'm here " This might give the Commie leadership something to think about. Well, we all realize that Muhammadan countries are just as bad as Communist one, we should give thought to what John Adams said to them.
President John Adams wrote: As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, -- as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims], -- and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
s c wrote: I think that once you have trusted in a man for a service and have found him to be only self serving,leaving you with yet another mess to have to get resolved,you will become all the more aware of how much more it is important to depend on God alone. ---
Therefore to follow this to its logical conclusion, if your doctor, your dentist, your teacher or your mechanic are found to be self-serving, you should depend on God alone for these things.
When the Clintons left 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in 2001, they reportedly vandalized and looted the White House. Hillary tried to ship furniture to the Clintonsâ personal home in Chappaqua, New York. The Clintons came under fire when they reportedly tried to take $190,000 in gifts and furnishings from the presidential mansion. Additionally, the General Accounting Office, an investigative arm of Congress, reported that âdamage, theft, vandalism and pranks did occur in the White House complexâ during the presidential transition from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush â including the theft of a presidential seal. According to the General Accounting Office, the cost of the White House vandalism reached about $14,000 and included $4,850 to replace computer keyboards with damaged or missing âWâ keys. The agency said some of the destruction was intentional, including glue smeared on desks, broken furniture, offices full of trash and graffiti in a menâs restroom stall that disparaged Bush. There were also missing doorknobs, medallions and office signs.
The Clintons are not the people they portray themselves to be
We live in a secular not a Christian society. Do you fault your town for being against theft? If someone broke into your place and stole your computer, would you be down on the local police because they also have places that sell liquor in your town and the same police would help them if someone broke in to their place of business and stole their computer? Were you aware that the pro football hall of fame is in Ohio? Did you know the current NBA champions make their home in Ohio?
Why do I ask? Because if you went to someplace to buy a dress, I am pretty sure you would appreciate it if the store had a policy to keep men out of the ladies restrooms and changing rooms, even though they are in Ohio. I would think you'd be glad for standards within our secular society when you can imagine what it would be like if they had none.
Whatever you wish, sc, it is your life to live. You come across as one who thinks people should get what you think they deserve. Aren't you glad we don't always get what we deserve? It just seems if we are going to be down on the evils in society, which we should be, then we also should be happy if we see a change for the better. (see I Kings 21:27-29)