Mike wrote: There is difference in being persecuted or even martyred for one's faith, and defense of oneself or those God has entrusted to us for reason other than persecution. Context is important. The question is would God allow for people to employ arms to defend themselves?
Me: Your probably right Mike it was hard to understand the content because people introduced scenarios about breaking into your home and defending others. I probably was on the wrong topic then. Sorry if I got mixed up Mike.
GS,just trying to show the connection. The article is about the NBA and the issue over trans restrooms. The NBA has exploited women. They're just taking the next step. If posters don't want to deal with sexual issues,then why are you looking at a thread about transgender restrooms? We're a perverse nation and have been for a long time. This is just the latest development. Don't you care about your children? Stop blaming the sodomites. The mess,which probably most of us have contributed to,is of our own doing. Stop defending the entertainment and sports industry.
John UK wrote: --- I am looking for a practical application of scripture. Bear in mind that in the UK we are not even permitted to carry a small penknife outside our houses. KJG, ---
Sad, bro. Governments seem always to drift toward thinking they are your mother, protecting adult toddlers from the scratches and bruises of life, whereas real Mums know when their children grow up.
Kev wrote: Yes this comment was about the martyrdom of Paul and BRF also used the word martyrdom in his comment. I think the context was in the case of martyrdom. I do not know how it got changed. Sometimes hard to follow with a bunch of different posters. I think this is the original context in this post.
For the sake of clarity, the original context for the shift in direction the thread went is- Allie said "John from UK, you folks need to be armed." BRF replied "We are to trust in God not guns." Christian said "@BRF:Amen We love our enemies and turn the other cheek..." Mike asked if God never used armed people to defend themselves or to destroy others? BRF replied "When the apostle Paul faced death for his faith he neither took up arms nor encouraged others to either."
SteveR wrote: Don't the half naked sexy cheerleaders have some influence on the TV audience?
I don't watch NFL anymore, but the biggest problem with football is idolatry. That was my problem. I became obsessed. I never paid any attention to cheerleaders and never even noticed them. The cheerleaders are almost never shown. At work monday morning during football season everyone is talking about the game, but if you were to ask about the cheerleaders, they'd be like "huh?"
I agree cheerleaders are wicked, and that's one of my issues with the NFL, but sc is out of line bring this up, over, and over, and over ad infinitum.
I looked up Thomas Ice, here is a quote from one of his websites. by Thomas Ice
One of the most commonly presented problems by critics of premillennial literal interpretation is found in association with Ezekiel' s temple vision (Ezekiel 40- 48). These rivals argue that Ezekiel 43:13, 27; 45:15, 17, 20 refers to the sacrifices in a would be future Temple as literally making atonement. This is true! The critics believe this to be a blasphemous contradiction to the finished work of Christ as presented in Hebrews 10. In fact, the "Bible Answer Man"- Hank Hanegraaff- called me heretical on one of his daily call-in programs because I teach that God will restore literal sacrifices in a millennial Temple. Here is the link: https://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/LiteralSacrificesInTheMillennium.html
It's hardly a matter of being on a high horse to point out the double standard,Lady. The facts are that many Christians condone or support pro sports/collegiate sports with naked women. The bigger problem is that they try to pretend that the problem isn't there and yet,if the sidelines had "trans" in the same "costumes",they would be complaining about how the sodomites are taking over. The sodomites are in error. But what's good for the goose is good for the gander as many might point out. Public nakedness should not be one of the elements of anything which a Christian supports. This nation has paraded naked women in front of our children for a long,long time. If that doesn't bother us,why should naked trans?...It's judgment. Perhaps,Lady,you might want to take some of your own advice. Instead of seeing the concern,you blindly assume poor motives. Not wise.
How do you miss wrote: The obvious. NBA cheerleaders SIT during the game and only get up during commercials when the cannot he seen by tv audiences! Nobody goes to watch the cheerleaders except maybe their friends and relatives You are doing nothing but showing your own ignorance as your entire post if wrong. There is no link between immodesty and homosexuals even they will tell you that
Don't the half naked sexy cheerleaders have some influence on the TV audience? They perform throughout the entire game. It isn't a 1st grade ballet class where only the parents are watching. They clearly have an influence on the spectators, and the decision makers at the NBA. and.....I imagine sodomites are content just watching the half dressed athletes
The obvious. NBA cheerleaders SIT during the game and only get up during commercials when the cannot he seen by tv audiences! Nobody goes to watch the cheerleaders except maybe their friends and relatives You are doing nothing but showing your own ignorance as your entire post if wrong. There is no link between immodesty and homosexuals even they will tell you that
kjg wrote: John UK, My historical examples does not apply to the current UK because your politicians have disarmed you. However, where I live, some people conceal and carry firearms when they attend church and no one raises an eyebrow. Tennessee has a long history with firearms. It is not uncommon for someone to go out and shoot firearms during the weekend. This week, I got out my firearms to go after some predators attacking my livestock.
KJG Thanks for that. It must be as difficult for you to understand what it is like here, as it is for me to understand what it is like there.
We have never had any fear attending church, any church. No trouble, no attacks, nothing.
This might all change, of course. But my principle has always been, not to kill anyone. And that will remain unchanged.
We too have farmers who are permitted firearms, for shooting of predators etc. But they are rarely seen, most people live in the towns and cities.
Well stated,Wayfarer. I would have simply said "it's a lose-lose" situation....appears to be. We can continue to pray for the leaders and those who would be to have prepared hearts and to hear the word of God that their spiritual eyes and ears would be opened. Without a doubt,we need mercy and we need to repent.