Mike wrote: Is it that they believe the gospel is not used as a means of grace, or do they truly believe all destinies are predetermined, therefore no evangelism is necessary?
Bro Mike, you might appreciate this short article in the Evangelical Times concerning the subject. You might be surprised at Spurgeon's battle with hypercalvinism especially concerning the universal love of God and his sincerity in desiring the salvation of sinners.
I think they did it to sell copies of their magazine at the supermarket check-out lines. They know their circulation numbers and where it is sold most often. Therefore, they tailor the cover pictures so they can sell more, and, of course, so we can talk about it here at SermonAudio with our adoring fans reading every note we add to news stories!
Completely conscious of your second reference, it might seem justified not to respond to yours. However, the Bible is full of 'ignore lists' because such are unavoidable consequences in the light of God's character. Yet, being mindful of the spite and pride present, some of the other instances are fitting.
US Yes, confirming what John UK states, it is not rare to find websites staging pictures of garments without bodies in them.
Frankly, garments made unto glory or garments designed unto shameful connotations are totally different.
E.g. see the garments unto glory described in Jesus's appearances:
"the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot" "... and his raiment was white as the light"
See the connotations of purity typified in 'garment' lingo in Rv 3:4:
"Thou hast a few names .. in Sardis which have *not defiled* their garments; and they shall walk with me *in white*: for they are worthy"
The biblical theology of clothes has to do with 'covering', this is why the robes of righteousness are full robes, not skimpy "he has clothed me with the garments of salvation, he has *covered* me with the robe of righteousness" Such is a guideline for godly garments Cont.
Phil Johnson wrote: Thatās what people commonly mean when they speak of āCalvinism.ā When I accept that label, I am not pledging allegiance to the man John Calvin. I am not affirming everything he taught, and Iām not condoning everything he did. Iām convinced Calvin was a godly man and one of the finest biblical expositors and theological minds ever, but he wasnāt always right. As a matter of fact, my own convictions are baptistic, so I am by no means one of Calvinās devoted followers. In other words, when I accept the label āCalvinist,ā itās only for convenienceās sake. Iām not saying āI am of Calvinā in the Corinthian sense....
Over the years I have probably written at least twice as much material trying to tone down angry hyper Calvinists as I have arguing with Arminians. Thatās not because I think hyper Calvinism is a more serious error than Arminianism. As a matter of fact, I would say the two errors are strikingly similar.....
Pastor Andy Proctor wrote: A Hyper-Calvinist has been defined by some to be those who are among the "Primitive" Baptists who believe in the doctrines of grace, but, don't believe in evangelism because they erroneously believe that the gospel is not used as a means of grace in regeneration. This is in direct opposition to Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Also, 1 Corinthians 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
Is it that they believe the gospel is not used as a means of grace, or do they truly believe all destinies are predetermined, therefore no evangelism is necessary?
narroway wrote: --- The term hyper Calvinist is oxymoron and usually is applied by non Calvinists and Arminians who cannot perceive the Biblical doctrines of grace. ---
WFP, the Greedy Old Party certainly isn't the party of values, apparently it has too many "Evangelicals" influencing it!
"... when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ---George Santayana
Phil Johnson wrote: ...the evangelical movement has completely lost its spiritual influence, because the evangelical segment of the church has grown increasingly worldly. Evangelicals have become accustomed to compromise. They have abandoned (or else are in the process of abandoning) virtually all the doctrinal distinctives that made them distinct from Roman Catholics and nominal Christians whose faith amounts to a kind of civil religion. Evangelicals have pretty much forfeited whatever real moral and spiritual authority their movement ever had.
A Hyper-Calvinist has been defined by some to be those who are among the "Primitive" Baptists who believe in the doctrines of grace, but, don't believe in evangelism because they erroneously believe that the gospel is not used as a means of grace in regeneration. This is in direct opposition to Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Also, 1 Corinthians 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
Mike from New York, Well said, well said. The Democratic Party used to be a party of values, for families and for blue collar guys and gals. But, they have a penchant for tribal politics. They pick winners and losers. In this case the deplorables were told "you didn't build dat", you were unredeemable , told too move on, told they just hang onto the guns and bibles. In the end, some twenty year old something told the middle class that the new demographic was Latino , Black and queer. Basically the Democratic Party turned to middle America and told them to get lost. So little by little they left and some found shelter in the RNC or just stopped voting. I had my problems with trump but had no problem voting against the Democratic Party. So if your a Christian and just tired of having a target on your back, you hope Trump will at least let you sit in the kitchen instead of being hounded out of the common square of ideas and allow you back into the the public discourse. At least with trump we just might fight back to not shrink back in fear.
Mike wrote: Perhaps clarification of terms is in order. What would you say a hyper-Calvinist believes that a 5-pointer doesn't?
As per usual Mike the devil is in the detail.
Hyper-Calvinist shuts the door on the election of God by God alone. The term hyper Calvinist is oxymoron and usually is applied by non Calvinists and Arminians who cannot perceive the Biblical doctrines of grace.
Biblical Calvinist (TULIP) knows that God is completely Sovereign from beginning to end of creation. God 'alone' draws the sinner to Christ and saves His elect alone. Thus the Five Pointer does not believe nor accept that man can in any way interfere with the process of salvation. This of course is the Biblical doctrine.
Arminian believes God needs all the help He can get from sinners. Thus their image of God shows God's sovereignty to be weakened and dependant upon the sinners decision???
Four Pointers (Jim Lincoln's club) tries to open the door wider than God has opened it, thus introduces the Arminian concept of universalism to Atonement.
IE, 2 Corinthians 11:21-31 To my shame, I must say, we were too weak for that! But whatever anyone else dares to boast ofāI am speaking as a foolāI also dare to boast of that. Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they offspring of Abraham? So am I. Are they servants of Christ? I am a better oneāI am talking like a madmanāwith far greater labors, far more imprisonments, with countless beatings, and often near death. Five times I received at the hands of the Jews the forty lashes less one. Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned. Three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I was adrift at sea; on frequent journeys, in danger from rivers, danger from robbers, danger from my own people, danger from Gentiles, danger in the city, danger in the wilderness, danger at sea, danger from false brothers; in toil and hardship, through many a sleepless night, in hunger and thirst, often without food, in cold and exposure. And, apart from other things, there is the daily pressure on me of my anxiety for all the churches. Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to fall, and I am not indignant? If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness....ESV
Kev wrote: I'm about to do some evangelism as well because of the time off I'm getting. I'm going to write out my own track print them and take your idea of using a blog to answer any questions that may come up in the mind of someone who is coming to Christ. I will pray that your new ministery is blessed. Take care Brother. Andy great comment as well.
Kev, that is great news! And be sure I will be praying about that venture. I used to write mine own tracts, but that was in the days without blogs to use for follow up.
Plus I kept wearing out printers; home printers are not really geared up for mass production.
Do let me know when you've got the site up and running. How exciting! And if the Lord uses that work to bring just one soul to himself, what a joy that would be! It is all worthwhile, our labour is not in vain in the Lord.
I remember that it was told me that Paige Patterson was a "soft" Calvinist. It seems to me that he became a hard Arminian. Paterson represent a friend mentioned by this Baptist historian?
Fisher Humphreys, professor of religion wrote: Calvinism is supportive of humility and of piety,... It is humbling to think that God has chosen you to be his child and that, if he had not, you would not be his child.... Many of the Southern Baptist leaders at that time were Calvinists. They also were committed to revivalism and evangelism.... From their beginning, Southern Baptists included both Calvinists and non-Calvinists,... In the century and a half since the convention was formed (in 1845), the trend has been away from Calvinism. Yet Calvinism never died out among Southern Baptists.
"Humphreys, who noted he is not a Calvinist,... But Humphreys said many other SBC leaders and Baptist church members in the South were not Calvinists."from,
Pastor Andy Proctor wrote: How can you reconcile John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life, with, John 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
It is a wonderful thing that believing in Christ we never perish, nor ever taste the burning sulphur, being tormented for ever due to our own sins.
It is also a most wonderful thing that the Lord Jesus Christ - prophet, priest and King - is praying for his people, even before they were born or born again. His prayers can never be unanswered.
1 John 3:1 KJV (1) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
God bless you pastor in all your work and service for our precious Lord.
It is right true that when anyone sees the doctrines of grace in the Bible, there is no going backwards from that glorious position which exalts God and humbles mankind.
John UK wrote: Aha, I'm with you bro; a sort of legalistic attitude - hyper baptist. Phew! Who'd want to be one of those? All okay here - I'm getting fired up!
I'm about to do some evangelism as well because of the time off I'm getting. I'm going to write out my own track print them and take your idea of using a blog to answer any questions that may come up in the mind of someone who is coming to Christ.
I will pray that your new ministery is blessed. Take care Brother.
But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person: ) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me: Gal2:6
God told us that persons- even a "person of the year"- don't impress God..
Eph6 9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.
Col3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons. - For there is no respect of persons with God Rom 2:11 - My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. James 2:1&9 - And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: 1Peter1:17 - These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. Jude 16
"Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:" Acts 10:34b
You are absolutely right. We must always lean upon the word of God for sole source of truth. Quotes are fine, but all truth originates with God. The verses from Ephesians 1 are quite clear and prove salvation is all of the Lord, from beginning to end.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: BMac, I certainly would not do such a web search but am pretty sure you could not do one for skimpy attire, immodest clothing or even vulgar dress that would yield a web site that does not have people in those outfits.
Brother US, you would be surprised what some perverted people are interested in.
In my evangelistic work at the market, I have to listen to some very strange stallholders, one of whom informed me of what her partner was advertising (and selling) on ebay. I won't go into details obviously, but it involved clothing without anybody being in them. Absolutely true.
Thankfully, this Tuesday's market will be my last. My place is on the streets, where I can speak to different people each time. Please remember me in prayer bro, as the Welsh are a fiery lot.