I am a Geordie and from near Newcastle Upon Tyne England but not living there now. The city has a predominance of charismatic churches preaching heresy. Here is a watered down charismatic testimony from a former gang leader-notice his 'conversion experience' and his healing ministry success is in african countries (never in Newcastle) and of course he has led 1000's to Christ-but again not evident in Newcastle Upon Tyne. Yes not all we English speak like Prince Charles either!

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isEEycfQe4k]]]gangland testimony[/URL]

or copy and paste http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isEEycfQe4k

The biggest danger to the churches...counterfeit Christianity

Freddie wrote:
I am baffled that " Sermon Audio " allows such "childish, unedifying" chat to go on in these rooms. What does the "nonsense'chat" have to do with " Calvinism"? I've seen this repeditive nonsense going on in other rooms as well. I wish "Sermon Audio" would monitor these rooms so that, once again, conversation could be edifying and praise worthy.

Is there a proper time for humour in your rooms? The point has been to take the sting out of the serpent deceiving via Tony-Lopez Cisneros comments. Click on his name in the comments contributors list. To your surprise you might find that possibly many 1000's of 'evangelicals' are taken in by Rivera yet it is nonesense. The humour was to simply establish how ridiculous a deceit it is in a time period when there were few others posting/warning etc.

Maybe sermonaudio should give an off topic comment section-how else can one converse about things that interest us as Christians-isn't it all part of fellowship?

So sorry to offend you-the room is all yours and you can deal with Tony Lopez next time he comes on with his very serious comments-God give you patience to deal with him!

John UK wrote:
It's a great embarrasment to me that I bought a whole load of the Chick comics years ago and enjoyed them. I even asked advice from pastors about it, but no-one seemed to know much about them. The great deception comes in that they appear so authoritative, a bit like a preacher with charisma and a voice that doesn't waver.
Ah well, it's never too late to learn, and I'll be learning till they put me in a body bag and shovel me into a hole on the farm, without ceremony, without a word spoken. Glory!

Why I am so concerned is I knew a few friends who were wrapped up in the whole rivera thing and I shed many tears and lost one particular close friendship becoming an enemy for speaking the truth in love.

It was put to me that the delusion will continue and have Rivera as a legend of his time, yet the Lord will bring His elect to see the lie. It is true.

In the case of Tony-there is no evidence of one seeking to confirm his convictions and willingness to examine the evidence-hence warning and rebuke.

John UK wrote:
Can you imagine a sanctified Tony, with lower case only, posting peaceably, no mention of Jesuits, filling the forum with the love of God and the pax of Jesus?

Yes I can't be bothered to mention Rivera anymore and wish Tony could see the truth so your point is good!

It is better just to state the facts and leave them-the Lord's sheep will discern, yet some seem not to be insane but deliberate in their posting of deceit.

'deceiving, and being deceived'

Tony-Lopez Cisneros is exposed by his own posts https://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25588

1 Timothy 4:1

Tony Lopez-Cisneros is alive but doesn't answer relative questions to his repetetive posts

He quotes another deceiver: YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN UP YOUR CLAIMS WITH HIM, AND NO ONE ELSE BUT HIM, WHILE HE WAS ALIVE.

Ignorance is no virtue.

Reformed Baptist W Ewin 'Jack Chick and Alberto Rivera DECEIVING..' booklet printed 1993 sent to Rivera and Chick-no response.

Bible Based Ministries Magazines South Africa Pastor Willcox 1990 (SG Baptist)

Fact and Fantasy Compared-40 years of Fraud 1991-Livesey (SG Baptist)

All sent to Rivera when he was alive and kicking
DB-1.IS ALBERTO RIVERA FOR REAL?
This recorded message/package photocopied documentation provide solid evidence that Alberto Rivera was a fraud and a deceiver,was never a Jesuit priest. This evidence consists of firsthand accounts of people who worked with Rivera, copies of court records

[URL=http://www.biblebasedministries.co.uk/catalogue/tapes/tape-and-documentation-package-by-donald-r-blanton/]]]Is Rivera For Real?[/URL]

Tony=bible christian who believes=deceived

AND I WILL NEVER EVER REPENT OF SPEAKING, COMMENTING OR COMMUNICATING THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH; AND THOSE THINGS WHICH I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN AND/OR HEARD !

8/11/08 3:47 AM A Bible Christian Who Believes

And May He Eternally Save Those Who Hate & Abhor His Chosen Servants, Prophets & Preachers of THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH & NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH !: 4/22/09 12:30 PM Tony Lopez-Cisneros

Or The TRUE Historic Authorized Biblical-Literal(ist) Gospel of The LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth in Israel.

I have Personally Already Chosen To Believe The TRUE Historic Authorized Biblical-Literal(ist) Gospel of The LORD Jesus Christ since 1975 8/11/08 3:47 AM A Bible Christian Who Believes

2/25/09 2:30 PM Tony Lopez-Cisneros

ANY HUMAN BEING WHO'S A MEMBER OF A SECRET SOCIETY, ESPECIALLY A SATANIC SECRET SOCIETY; LIKE THE "JESUITS", "SKULL & BONES" & (FREE)MASONS--ALA THE LATE 33RD-DEGREE (FREE)MASON SENATOR STROM THURMOND: IS NOT AND CANNOT BE A TRUE BIBLICAL-LITERALIST
& JUDEO-CHRISTIAN ! ! !

To Join The Hundreds, Thousands & Millions Of Authorized Biblical-Literalist

When I questioned him last on the specific number of times that he's had a personal encounter with "Aliens",

The FACT IS that my Christian Brother/Friend, JV, has ALREADY seen Satan (and NO, he doesn't necessarily have pitch-fork, goatee & horns--but he can appear that way if he wants); .
He has also seen Another Major "Angel" or "Spirit-being" that is alluded to/named in Scripture; but is not considered a "person" by Interpreters of The Bible or Bible Students.

His name is "Abyss"

.Hell/Hades is in the shape of a Humongous Human Body in the center of the Earth.

2.Hell has 12 Entrances & 6 Exits

Christian Friend First related to me how the LORD appeared to Him when He was about a few (3-4) years old.

He told me that The LORD appeared to Him, while he was at home, as a Large/Huge Flaming Hand--That is, A Large Flaming Hand that was Burning; but was NOT Being Burnt-Up or Consumed.

When I asked him about How Large The Hand (The LORD'S HAND) was; He said that it was about the size of A Regular House Door (7'x3-1/2'?).

(and more)

https://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25588

1 Timothy 4:1

From a former RC priest Bart Brewer in his introduction of a booklet exposing Alberto

Tony here are the options

1. You are suffering from insanity
2. You are here as a deliberate deceiver
3. You have been given over to a strong delusion
4. You are willing to seek the truth

Your inability thus far and refusal to examine the evidence; and belief of demonic revelation from a friend seduced by the doctrines of demons suggests 1 to 3.
4 is the wise option.

John UK wrote:
So that's where they're all going.
Say, take heed, I've just painted a coastal scene and framed it ready for sale at £45. A little while ago I went to the framing shop and ordered 10 frames of a certain type of wood which I liked. When I asked the chappie what sort of wood it was, he said it was made of tulip wood. I nearly fainted.

Yes I promised to buy one! Can I still?
I like coastal scenes or is it so good it is already sold. You'll be soon famous if they are selling like hot cakes (or like carrots
at the Tescos in your area)

See the providence...God provided the tulip wood especially

How is 'Pastor' Nury Rivera? She had her own website then it disappeared-strange after a lifetime of sound doctrine from her dearly departed husband she calls herself 'pastor'.

Do you recall Don Blanton-worked with your father-the court case-maybe you should read the posts again and contact him?

Do you recall Rand who wrote to you and Jack Chick.

How is G. Bouffard-the magic pen that signed your father's death warrant? I hear another family friend Eric Phelps has seen the warrant but sadly Gerard won't allow it to be seen on the internet. Hoax? YES. There was no vatican warrant

John UK wrote:
And I am in Church 24hrs a day, 7/52.

Kermit wrote:
We might not like or agree with the concept of "Global Warming" but it appears that there is a lot more going on out there than "sun tan" weather improving!

It was an interesting Hony Bee prog but if it was Global warming then why is the Bee population in Australia untouched? They even guard their ports!

In England the Honey Bee is thriving in cities but not agricultual land with 40% hives gone. The suggestion is pesticides and modern agricultural methods.

In the Us they import bees from Australia with 80% hive losses in places. The big and main culprit is said to be the varroa mite and a mix of pesticides. But if most pollination is being done by transporting bee hives all over the US...no wonder the pariste will thrive, the bee is not a metal robot!

I never knew it was a clergyman who saved the bee! They used to poison the bees to get the honey and kill them all until he had an idea!

John will miss his carrots without the humble bumble bee. How amazing is our God as we don't realise how we rest upon His total Sovereignty and government even of the often seemingly tiny insignificant creatures. Praise His Name

Not only John will be worried ( the demise of the cucumber ) ...70 uk crops affected. Very interesting...

'Bees are dying in their millions. It's an ecological crisis that threatens to bring global agriculture to a standstill. Introduced by Martha Kearney, this documentary explores the reasons behind the decline of bee colonies across the globe, investigating what might be at the root of this devastation.

Honey bees are the number one insect pollinator on the planet, responsible for the production of over 90 crops. Apples, berries, cucumbers, nuts, cabbages and even cotton will struggle to be produced if bee colonies continue to decline at the current rate'

If that was the case having grown so fast, it gives credibility to the Vatican claims of having begun with the apostles of Christ, the growing conviction today amongst evanagelicals that RC is an acceptable denomination in the Christian family!

Now I wonder why J C Chick allows such to be published? The Vatican did not exist in the first 1000 years yet chick and rivera produce fabrications which are accepted as facts-there was no true pope until the 10th century.

So does Chick simply sell comics or have another agenda-I haven't the answer, but it is my question!

100,000 comics published daily by Chick and sent into the world-with that deception. Roman Catholicism did not exist until hundreds of years after Muhammad, yet Rivera tells us otherwise from the vatican source Cardinal Bea that the vatican produced Muhamed and Islam .

Don't tell me you can get those comics delivered with your dad's evening newspaper in the US, we only got the Beano and Dandy when I was a kid in the UK

If you want to read just one absurdity and we in the UK know who David Ike is (mad conspiracy nut) and how absurd he is...just read his Rivera article on 'How the Vatican created Islam'
[URL=http://www.davidicke.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=746]]]Cardinal bea told me so[/URL]

See how Rivera has special revelation...from Cardinals, but revelation that no other man can authenticate. It must be true because Cardinal Bea told Rivera

Anyone who refuses reproof and refuses to listen to sound teaching is in the dangerous position of being SENT a delusion by God.' John

Thanks John excellent point

For those who discerned the BIG SECRET, why do you not then rebuke/warn?

There is a good sound theological christian writer in the UK (I won't name him) still taken in by Alberto Rivera, though most have discerned the truth, though some good calvinists were taken in for years. Many fundi-baptists are still taken in.

If Big Secret comment is from an American Christian then you may care to understand that it is through such repeteive comments by the likes of Tony that brethren are first caught-not just spiritual babes either.

The next question is if C H Spurgeon could see the idenity of antichrist-what then are ministries who follow the likes of Rivera? They seem to have little concern for lost roman catholics but plenty to say about the jesuits when they incorporate many of the jesuits deceptions into their own ministries.

Ah, but do you miss the point? Nothing amiss with using different alias'...it is what he is actually posting and why? Easy to prove he is the same as a 'Christian Who believes'

Tell me what you discern-read his posting under A Christian Who Believes?

His commenst about his friend meeting satan etc and his comments about the antichrist, yet using a repetetive style. He throws in some truths too but many errors-I wonder why and is it deliberate?

I haven't the space or time to make the point correctly.

copy and paste above Alert-a Christian Who believes?'

Quote:

8/11/08 3:47

'Or The TRUE Historic Authorized Biblical-Literal(ist) Gospel of The LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth in Israel.

I have Personally Already Chosen To Believe The TRUE Historic Authorized Biblical-Literal(ist) Gospel of The LORD Jesus Christ since 1975; When I was Truely Born-Again Spiritually From Satan's Spiritual Family & His Kingdom, Adam's Spiritual Family & His Kingdom; and The Papal Anti-Christ's Spiritual Family & His Church/State Kingdom Headquartered at The Satanic-Vatican in ROME, Italy !

AND I WILL NEVER EVER REPENT OF SPEAKING, COMMENTING OR COMMUNICATING THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH; AND THOSE THINGS WHICH I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN AND/OR HEARD !

that sounds suspiciously like Tony Lopez-Cisneros-how many posts mix caps like that and make such statements'

If this is Tony I ask him what he is up to here on sermonaudio?

anyone interested scan down the link of comments above 'Alert-A Christian Who Believes' and read the statements about meeting satan etc.