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who's who wrote:
Ro 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Here is a very good sermon series on giving by John MacArthur. He also says that tithing is not something the Christian should be participating in. We give as we purpose in our hearts to fulfill the needs of the kingdom work.

http://www.gty.org/Resources/Sermon+Series/123_Gods-Plan-for-Giving


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from a sinner to a sinner wrote:
1Tim 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Now!
"O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
An' foolish notion:
What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us, An' ev'n devotion!"
(R.Burns)
So if the Law is for the sinner, then why are Christians picking and choosing which Law they follow and which one they don't? Follow all the Law or follow none.

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Wildmore wrote:
"Doesn’t that mean we have no free will?"
Man in his natural estate has no free will because of sin. Thus he is under the dominion of sin.
The Christian is freed from sins dominion by the Holy Spirit and comes into the estate of faith.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Yep. We are slave to someone, it will either be sin or Christ. Either way we obey a Master. Nothing can find itself outside of God's will and sovereignty, if so, then God is not sovereign.

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Pastor Thomas Donelan wrote:
And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. Genesis 14:18-20
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone . –Matthew 23:23
We see here that the tithe predates the law, as Abram was paying tithes to the priest of God centuries before the law, and Jesus himself said pay the tithe but do the rest as well.
It does not sound like he is abolishing the tithe. But the tithe is just the starting point. There needs to be offerings also.
So does animal sacrifice...

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New in Focus wrote:
Reed,
Thank you for your input, I was just wondering where the best place would be to proceed with the subject(s) in discussion, all the subjects, contained herein, are like numerous points on a line, yet all on the line. But from what point of this line should we continue, the first point being established. If you know what I mean?
I agree with both of you, but my main point with this invigorating discussion is this: In order to activate the New Will, the Old Will must be done away with. How was the Old Law established? By doing as Christ commanded. The Old Law was squeezed into two very easy and basic commandments and if we accomplish these we have establish, completed and fulfilled what was commanded way back in the day. The Law was perfect, man is sinful. The Law pointed man in the direction of the Cross, once the cross was completed, now what? Is the Law for the saved or the unsaved? Do we still need to be confronted with our need of a Saviour even after we are saved? Interesting...

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Free will...? Only as God allows.

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You two are right. We are under grace, grace and grace. Not Law. The Law was a curse. Christ became a curse for us. The Law was fulfilled when Christ Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead. It is finished! Christ Jesus died, giving the New Will and Testament power over the Old Will and Testament. We have moral laws but those moral laws were rolled up into Love God and love your neighbour as yourself. Now in asking which covenant we are under, I ask you this, where is the line in Scripture where we passed from one to the other?

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Do we follow, as Christians, the Law of Moses or do we have a new Law?

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Jessica Dawson wrote:
I agree, in the New Testament we are given the opportunity to give more, or to give less. Although, If someone chooses to tithe, I don't believe there is any fault in it. God bless!
2 Corinthians 9:6-8 But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work.
Remember this verse, Jessica?

James 2.10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

Be careful with that mentality. If you decide to follow one part of the Law you automatically place yourself under obligation to follow ALL the Law. And if you fail, Deut. 28 15-68 jumps up and grabs you.
Why would you only want to give 10% to God anyway? We as His slaves really don't have any option but total surrender.


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See...this is what I am trying to pursue here. Where does the Law stop and Grace begin? We can bring out hundreds of verses on tithing from Genesis to John, but if we are under the New Covenant/Testament/Will/Law, where does that begin? I heard a lot of criticism against my claim where I say according to Scripture that when Christ died on the cross, He yelled out, "It is finished.", that this is where the Law of Moses was put to rest and the Law of Grace came into effect. A will cannot have any power unless the one writing the will dies. We are under Grace now, we are no longer compelled, commanded or forced to give 10%, but we are told as we purpose in our hearts. Can we not agree on this?

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I must clarify a statement that I made earlier. Yes, Abraham and others were saved by God's grace, because they believed that God's Messiah was coming to earth as the sacrificial Lamb. It was grace that saved them...but the whole idea of Jesus coming to earth, living a sinless life, dying on the cross, rising from the dead had not transpired yet. The people of the OT had to believe in something that had not happened yet. This was faith and it was accredited to them for righteousness. The people of the OT were under the Law of Moses. They were shackled if you will to rules, laws and ordinances that did not free them, but kept them down. There is only one Man who kept the Law perfectly, and that was Jesus. There is a clear distinction between the Law and Grace. The Law brought man to the cross and showed him his sin and incapacity of obtaining favour in God's eyes. The Cross was the tipping point, a cross roads where Jesus Christ dying for us, bridged that gap between us and God and made it possible to have that relationship with Him. No man can be saved except through the work of Christ on the cross.

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Okay...I can see this isn't going to be easy; it never is. I find my biggest challenges with people are these: 1.People don't read/listen properly and make assumptions and conclusions based not on the information but on their already formed opinions.
2.People are extremely hard to convince over subjects that are either near and dear to them or have been ingrained over the course of a lifetime.
Yes, if I find out that I am wrong ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE. I will admit it and change.
I may run out of room here to explain my side of things so if anyone of you want to email me privately, or comment on my blog in an open forum, you are invited to do so.
I said that there were those who believed in Christ that were declared righteous in God's eyes before Christ even came to earth...right? However, the gap was not bridged until He died on the cross and rose from the dead...right? Now whether we can agree with this or not determines whether we can carry on. if you do not agree, then further discussion is pointless.

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ThisMightHelp wrote:
I have observed RR's posts and blogs for a while now...
2 Cor. 9.7: "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly , or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver."

This is the only commandment that I can see where Paul talks about giving. We are not compelled to give according to law or percentage, but according to as we purpose in our hearts to give. Why is this so hard for people to understand? God wants obedience not sacrifice. if I decide out of love to give 75% of my paycheque to the church, that is a whole lot more telling of my love for God rather than being forced to give 10% out of fear of curse.
I am not a dispensationalist, nor am I a Calvinist or anything. I follow Christ Jesus...period.


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I really do not have the time or the knowledge that you seem to possess to answer these questions my friend. You either believe in giving 10% of your stuff to God, whether that be money, time, wheat or donkeys, or you believe that it all belongs to Him and as His slave 100% is His to do with as He pleases. Anyone that claims to be a Christian can tell you that the Old Covenant stopped at the cross when Christ cried out, "It is finished!" and the New Covenant of Grace began with His victory over death, hell and the grave. The people of the OT were not saved by Grace, they couldn't be, Christ hadn't died yet. Some were declared righteous because they believed in Christ without seeing Him.
You my friend are confused and you need to get back to basics and refrain from throwing out labels and ideas that many of us have no idea what you're talking about.

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Greetings...to address your questions allow me to ask you some questions.
1.Where did the Old Covenant end and the New Covenant begin?
2.If we are to adhere to the laws of the Old Covenant, where do we draw the line? Do you keep the Sabbath, sacrifice animals to atone for your sins...etc?
3.If you consider it okay to give only 10% of your income/grain/animals/wheat to God, who owns the 90% left over?

I am curious to think that you don't understand the distinction between the finished work of Christ on the cross and the need before Christ's death to perform certain rituals to make oneself acceptable in God's eyes. Please advise.


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So according to Scripture, namely the New Covenant we are now in, are we commanded to tithe?

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John UK wrote:
Nowhere is that to be found bro.
The only yoke we want around our neck is that of Jesus Christ, who said that his yoke is easy and his burden light.
Amen...with that slavery comes enormous freedom, giving all of everything not ten percent of a little.

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Where in the New Covenant does God command us to tithe? BTW, Malachi and the Gospels are not the New Covenant. This sort of subject always rears its ugly head whenever the "church" goes through financial difficulty. The tithing sermons always come out when the church needs more money. "You'll be cursed with a curse if you don't tithe..."
Talk about a yoke of guilt and fear around the necks of those who are also suffering financially.

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The gluttony of Moloch never ceases to astonish me. My heart burns and pains for these precious babies. May God have mercy on their souls.

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"Hath God said...?"
or shall Mr. Bell say, "Hath the Bible said...?"

Same old, same old. Same lies, same attempts to draw man's attention and focus away from God's word. If this is not possible, just rework it to make it say what you want it to say.
Rob Bell is just as guilty of reworking and questioning God's word as the devil himself...their eternal destinations are the same.

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