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Unprofitable Servant wrote: Sorry my current schedule does not permit lengthy discussions, if you don't think it was a good idea for the TN legislature to have a bill to acknowledge the Book of books as their state book, so be it. With all the stories we see about the degradation around us, I am glad to see a positive story.
You mean the The Roman Catholic Bible of course. I find nothing positive in this story at all except a hypocritical political move much like the apostle Paul described,
2 Corinthians 2 17 For we are not like many, peddling the word of God, but as from sincerity, but as from God, we speak in Christ in the sight of God.---NASB
Shame the Obamas' can't get focused on our war at hand, like bloody Islam, and the world wide war on Christianity. Don't think USA is alone Australian politicians now refer to Isis as death cult. Instead of realizing this Isis is the face of true Islam. Would be great if the teachings of yshua would inspire our leaders. Pfft those days are gone
Michael Hranek wrote: Gen17 Still more disinformation
He always comes out with that, he's a disinformationalist. Always has been, always will be, unless he comes to realise the truth of those words......
Ye Must Be Born Again
I wonder what his church does when a sinner comes in the evening service, hears the gospel, repents of his sins, believes on Christ, calls on his name, and is saved, and requests baptism? Would he have his request granted? Without any interview by the elders? Sort of like "baptism on demand"? 7th time of asking.
If you want a name for this philosophy, and that's what James Stuart Mill would call it is this,
Webster's 1913 Dictionary wrote: UTILITARIANISM: Utilitarianism /U¬∑til`i¬∑ta¬īri¬∑an¬∑ism/ (?), n. 1. The doctrine that the greatest happiness of the greatest number should be the end and aim of all social and political institutions. Bentham. 2. The doctrine that virtue is founded in utility, or that virtue is defined and enforced by its tendency to promote the highest happiness of the universe. J. S. Mill. 3. The doctrine that utility is the sole standard of morality, so that the rectitude of an action is determined by its usefulness.
Now this might sound good -- superficially -- but our Judeo-Christian culture does look out for the for the rights of minorities, and this philosophy doesn't. Christians also think there's absolute standards -- some even written in stone.
I Still Consider Rock-&-Roll Music "The Devil's Music"; Because, As Former Druid 'Witch' Turned True Holy Bible Born Again Christian (1970s) Br. John Todd Said, The Emphasis Is More On The 'Beat' Than In The 'Words' !
When One Goes To Present-Day "Gospel" Music--Especially African-American Present-Day "Gospel" Music--Just Like Rock-&-Roll "Music": The Emphasis Is Placed MORE On The "BEAT" Than The "WORDS" Of The Song/Music/Composition !
And THAT Is The DANGER Of Contemporary &-Or Present-Day "GOSPEL"-'Music'--ESPECIALLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN CONTEMPORARY-/-PRESENT-DAY "GOSPEL"-'MUSIC' !
If One Looks At The Life's Ending Of The So-Called "WORLDLY" &-OR "FAMOUS" HOLLYWOOD "ROCK-&-ROLL-/-'GOSPEL'-MUSIC-SINGERS & PERFORMERS LIKE ELVIS PRESLEY OR WHITNEY HOUSTON--LIKE MANY OTHER NON-'GOSPEL'-MUSIC-SINGING "ROCK-&-ROLLERS": THEIR LIVES ENDED IN THEM COMMITTING ***SUICIDE*** !
I Personally Have Attended Many "Black"-/-African-American & Even "White"-Country/Rural Baptist & Pentecostal Church Services Where It Appeared The "BEAT" Far Outweighed The "WORDS"; But, I Leave The Interpretation Thereof To Personal Tastes, Preferences &-Or "Convictions" !
AS INFANT-WATER-'BAPTISM' &-OR "BABY WATER 'BAPTISMAL' REGENERATION" HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUE HOLY BIBLE &-OR TRUE HISTORIC HOLY BIBLICAL LITERALIST NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIANITY--
"INFANT-WATER-'BAPTISM' &-OR "BABY WATER 'BAPTISMAL' REGENERATION" HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE HEATHEN-/-PAGAN EGYPTIAN FALSE-RELIGIOUS, HERETICAL (&-OR ROMAN--ESPECIALLY ROMAN-'CATHOLIC' CULTIC) RITES, RITUALS, PRACTICES, SACRAMENTS & ETC. OF "INFANT-WATER 'BAPTISMS' " &-OR "BABY WATER 'BAPTISMAL' REGENERATIONS" !
As The Apostle Paul Wrote:
"For Christ Sent Me Not To Baptize, But To Preach The Gospel..."-1 Cor. 1:17a-b
Paul Previously Stated:
"I Thank God That I Baptized None Of You, But Crispus And Gaius;...
And I Baptized Also The Household Of Stephanas: Besides, I Know Not Whether I Baptized Any Other.-1 Cor. 1:14-16
"FOR IN JESUS CHRIST NEITHER CIRCUMCISION (&-OR WATER-'BAPTISM') AVAILETH ANYTHING, NOR UNCIRCUMCISION (&-OR UN/NON-'BAPTISM'), BUT FAITH WHICH WORKETH BY LOVE."-GALATIANS 2:12
"FOR IN CHRIST JESUS NEITHER CIRCUMCISION (&-OR WATER-'BAPTISM') AVAILETH ANYTHING, NOR UNCIRCUMCISION (OR UN/NON-'BAPTISM'), BUT A NEW CREATURE (ala THE SECOND BIRTH aka ST. JOHN 3:1-16)."-GALATIANS 6:15 !
Mourner wrote: Only God is good. As far as her (MS's) history, I find it difficult to substantiate that all of these groups, who separated from the Roman Church's error, did so over their rejection of Infant Baptism. Every division claims validity from them, all the while disagreeing with one another. Searching for historical validation I saw Seventh Day Adventists have made such false claims. I found good reason to believe that the best of men are men at best. All here claim the authority of Scripture and since the Scripture is in harmonious agreement with itself, I'd have to assume the professing Church is not. Is this not in part due to the quenching, grieving, vexing and tempting of the Spirit of Truth? There are also the two causes mentioned in Ephesians 6:12
Just for the record mourner, I did not state in my post that infant baptism was the only rejection of the groups I listed. I also said their refusing control by the romanist cult.
John Yurich USA wrote: Now if only she and her dopey husband would heed the message of gospel music and embrace Jesus as their Personal Savior and trust in Jesus alone for salvation.
Well just so that your trollish comments don't confuse a casual reader, I will of course say this. All of us have heard Obama claim that he is a born again Christian. It is the same as you saying Christ is your savior. Your statement and his statement mean absolutely nothing to our Lord and Savior unless you were drawn to the Savior, repented of your sins and trust completely in His accomplished work. If you had done that, you would have been born again from above and would never step foot in a catholic service again.
Remember those who called Him Lord at the judgment and He simply said depart from Me, you who are lawless. IOW, their sins remained.
As usual, this will be my last one to you on this thread.
men like him who have believed the neocon line will continually drag believers into fables and falsehoods of peace and safety that further entrap us. like Romney who was for the ndaa measures to end posse comitatus, what can you do with fearful evangelicals willing to have americans arrested and detained w/out trial? with friends like this, who needs...? we need truthtellers who understand the times, not those who've been fed fables so long they believe them, not well wishers either!
Christian leaders are going to have to stand up and speak for the gospel themselves and quit waiting for the catholics, prosperity teachers and Mormons to do it for them.
Mourner wrote: All here claim the authority of Scripture and since the Scripture is in harmonious agreement with itself, I'd have to assume the professing Church is not.
Mourner, I have to agree with you, but with some reservations. For example, if we were to follow the instructions for meetings in the NT, we would certainly have a sort of charismatic meeting, which I know you are opposed to. We would have apostles, prophets, prophetesses, miracle workers, healers, teachers and pastors etc.
One of the reasons for distinctives in the professing churches is that different churches remove or ignore certain passages of scripture, which leaves them with human decisions as to what to do and what not to do. For example, shall women be totally silent in the church, or just partly silent? Should we seek the best spiritual gifts? Shall we aspire to prophesy? Shall we sing just the psalms? Shall we preach the gospel outdoors to sinners, or indoors to the church?
Regarding the Spirit being quenched and grieved - YES! This is why Jesus is outside the church knocking on the door. And no-one wants to open the door, lest he disturb their sleep.
the degrading process met its goals as borders left open and unaccompanied youth assisted in. of course they steal! and yes its happened to many. if the foundations are weak.... the answer would be to get rid of it and return to hired security through airports.
Thank you for your response, Mourner, but it did not answer my question. The second generation of Israel were all born in the wilderness but none of the males were circumcised until they entered the Promised Land. The law requiring 8th day male circumcision was a published fact. God never said a word about it being a transgression of the ordinance. Why?
This may seem like nitpicking but if our understanding of these things is correct there should be no inconvenient snags to deal with. God is an infallible author..... if inconsistencies surface when a doctrine is put to the test, it isn't because of the Author but the interpreter.
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the journal of medical ethics has set itself against the very lives of their own society. they are men to be pitied. repent and follow Christ, there is no other way! these ways seem good but is from the pits!
SteveR wrote: The depravity of man is now in full bloom, and I find it difficult to believe a candidate like Santorum who openly defends GODs law as part of his platform can win the GOP nomination let alone the White House. imo- The GOP will seek out a non committed or gay marriage sympathetic candidate. One that can somehow console the right wing base by defending Christian rights to refuse to bake them a cake
Well just for the record; Santorum is a practicing catholic and can't defend God's law. If he can, then Muslims can. You wouldn't say that a Muslim who refused to attend a homosexual wedding was defending God's law.