Observer, I agree with your comments entirely! THank you.
So we have Trump identifying himself with the Christian community, inviting them into the political dialogue, trying to awaken the sleeping evangelicals to their own persecution (because so many seem ok with being silenced) and the threats of IRS against their churches, wants to control borders, have legal immigration, will reverse fightin for ISIS as has been the status quo to reducing NATO/UN power, stopping unvetted immigration from sharia areas. seems alright with state challenges to abortion and sodomy marriage/transgender, will go for moderate to conservative judges on SC and wants to bring jobs back when joblessness is 1 of 4 at least...
should we not just pray, for a salvation of faith not works, and thank God we have an alternative to a bolshevic revolution? if the church still chooses their slavery after this red carpet, there will be no sympathy from me.
Not wanting to be contentious, but all that was brought forth on this thread was that the unbiblcal evangelism that has permeated the land is a devils narcotic to lull many into a false peace. A few verses of Scripture are read which describe man's lost condition, then the words believe and then a little persuasion "won't you accept Christ" and say this prayer after me, and bam it's a done deal. Wretched!
GSMontana wrote: SteveR wrote: Let me know when the tickets go on sale, I would like to among the first to attend. You can surf the crowd such smash hits like "Flipping The Switch on The Electric Chair", "Jesus Dont Care Which Church You Attend", and "Republican Jesus"
ladybug wrote: "I repented, believed and was born again without any understanding of the doctrines of grace. I have spoken to countless others for whom this is also true. Let God be God and let's do what is commanded us." This is true of myself as well. ..Grace is magnificent and marvelous when rightly understood My original complaint was the 'method' of Trump's alleged salvation, his 'accepting Jesus'. There isn't a verse in the Bible that commands us to accept Christ. It has spiraled downhill from there....
Just to be clear ladybug, my gripe is not with what you wrote, but with a general misunderstanding in some minds of how the "ground level" believers' experience gels with how God actually works. I posted on this a while back addressing our resident name changing Presby who happens to be a Hyperman.
All I would say about terminology is that we may certainly use words like "receive" (see John 1.11, 12) provided it is guarded with explanations.
I would add that I rather doubt the reports about Trump becoming a Christian. We can never say never, but judging the source of the reports we have to pause and wonder.
Finally, like yourself, when I came to understand the DOG.. mind blown, heart full of praise and wonder. Wow!!
Government bureaucrats really have a problem with normal rational thinking. They appear to be trying to fabricate a world of weirdos, perverts and sodomites rather than live in the real world. I feel really sorry for the future generations in they way they are being taught today.
Professing themselves to be wise they make themselves look really stupid.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God,..........
MSMontana this may help you with some of your questions,
John MacArthur wrote: âChrist has been my Savior,â you hear people give testimony and say, âand now I want to make Him Lord of my life.â Very often we would go to a conference or a retreat, or there would be some kind of a special emphasis meeting, and people would say, âYes, Iâve been a Christian and Christ has been my Savior, but Heâs never been Lord of my life.â And usually people like that are trying to explain how it can happen that at some time in their life they accepted Christ as Savior and nothing ever changed, basically. In fact, that might be an experience that many of you can identify with. You go back to some point in your life as a child or a young person when you âaccepted Christ,â made a decision for Christ, and you look at that as the moment of your salvation though basically nothing really changed in your life.
their remedies for addictions and pain aren't working. neither for cancer, which they can't even define, or super infections, nor the autoimmune disease. only reason they make so much money is people are held hostage by insurance.
yes, there are great doctors with amazing skills, but overall as an industry this is their state.
yet alphabet agencies do everything in their power to restrain what is outside of their system.
hey MSM, why you all gotta keep insulting men all the time? They work longer hours than women! I'm frankly tired of the negativity towards males, when's the last time women won wars for us, paved the roads, made our homes and brought a sense of humor to the table? They've invented so many amazing contraptions to keep yourselves cool and comfortable. Time to quit having war with Adam please?
y'll need to educate yourselves on energy currency.
this is what they are trying to do with carbon credits.
one world bank, whole world taxes under IMF, directly linked to EU and US efforts to make North American Union with open borders, NAFTA, TPP (see articles about how they want to ignore vote of the Brits and make a superstate with one military).
they have to sell the "science' as technocracy, it is the "science" that leads the way into the forced societal changes.
if scientists refuse the propaganda of the machine, they are forced out.
all must conform.
for more on this see stories of dozens of alternative doctors who have passed away recently.
the NWO platform is on the move.
all it takes is for the church to reject it and proclaim the truth of scripture.
this is the age of post modernist relativism on trial. they told us all beliefs are the same and all beliefs are the same road, and here we have a conflict of belief!
Jesus Christ is Lord!
I see so much of dumbed down everything around me... medical care, food, education... people seem to know so little about history, etc... when someone comes along with some credibility, with a real answer to their questions (which Jesus Chrst as revealed in scripture through the empowering of the Holy Spirit) is the only answer! Then anwer to every question!
Here the relativists moan that we are not evoloving, let them be in fear of these atrocious views that promote pedophilia (child marriage), etc.
What I am saying is that Christians do should quit letting the world train them into being defensive.
"I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except by me."
The Lord has given us answers! He has not been shortcoming with us but very generous!
Maybe this will help; to believe is to entrust, especially oneâs spiritual well being to Christ - from Strongs. I found one verse in the Gospels and Acts from the KJV that uses the word 'accept' - We accept it always, and in all places, most noble Felix, with all thankfulness. Acts 24:3 To accept here means - apodechomai ap-od-ekh'-om-ahee From G575 and G1209; to take fully, that is, welcome (persons), approve (things): - accept, receive (gladly).
There seems to be a difference between the two words. Trusting in Christ with your very soul means you are resting on what He has done, and not some decision you have made. We do trust Him after He opens our understanding, to equate accepting Him reeks of a work man does; as though God is waiting on us to come to a decision. This is the danger of such language and it has produced tons of false converts. We dare not tell sinners they can accept Christ, we tell them the law and the Gospel and leave the saving of the soul to the One who accepts or rejects.
Matthew 7:15 âBeware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.---ESV
John MacArthur said or, wrote: Scripture teaches that the gospel calls sinners to faith joined in oneness with repentance (Acts 2:38; 17:30; 20:21; 2 Peter 3:9). Repentance is a turning from sin (Acts 3:19; Luke 24:47) that consists not of a human work but of a divinely bestowed grace (Acts 11:18; 2 Timothy 2:25). It is a change of heart, but genuine repentance will effect a change of behavior as well (Luke 3:8; Acts 26:18-20). In contrast, easy-believism teaches that repentance is simply a synonym for faith and that no turning from sin is required for salvation.