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4/1/07 7:17 PM

Alan

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I do not think he has done wrong. To not go into an Assembly would result in exactly the same thing happening except we would do ourselves out of a voice. Sinn Fein governing us from Dublin would be the inevitable result. Which is less biblical? To share power and have a veto or to not share power local and hand power to London and Dublin where Sinn Fein are expect to gain power? Either way Sinn Fein are going to be in power over Ulster - the only difference is whether is is locally accountable with a veto of SF or not. Also as stated what is the difference between this and sitting with them in local councills and in the European Parliament which already happen?

4/1/07 3:54 PM

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Indeed the News Letter carried two stories, one about Colin Parry whose 12 year old son was killed in the Warrington (England) bombing by the IRA another about Sammy Heenan from Ulster whose father was shot by the IRA whilst going about his farm. Both have forgiven the perpetrators and signaled they support moving forward.

Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"

Isaiah 64:6 "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags"
Dr Paisley is a simple sinner like everyone else so pray for him rather than berating him.

4/1/07 2:24 PM

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Albert - I think the problem is you simply interpreted Dr Paisley`s comments in your own way. When Dr Paisley refered to Sinn Fein-IRA he was clearly linking the two and clearly that leaves open the option for that link to be broken and for Sinn Fein to step away and come into the political fold. Yes it is true the DUP could refuse a power-sharing arrangement but that would also mean the DUP would be accepting of Sinn Fein ruling us from Dublin in a future Dublin government in partnership with London. How is that more acceptable? Surely then the DUP would by their decision not to form an Assembly be equally as guilty? But may I ask you a question - are all the Sinn Fein members "unrepentant murderers" or only some? Are you going to judge their repentance as a group or as individuals? Also what about the DUP on the councils with Sinn Fein? What of the DUP in the European Parliament with Sinn Fein? Indeed what of the DUP sitting in Westminster and the EU Parliament with various "Christian" parties and non-Christians?

4/1/07 11:55 AM

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I wonder too. The DUP and all the other parties have sat together in the local council chambers for decades - what is the difference? I live in a majority Roman Catholic area with a Sinn Fein majority on the local Council - should we not participate in the council and leave ourselves with no voice as Christians and / or as Unionists? What of my work? The majority are Roman Catholic and undoubtedly Sinn Fein supporters - should I quit my job and sit at home and separate from them?

4/1/07 11:49 AM

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So what folks are saying is we should have rejected a locally accountable power-sharing Assembly where Christians and Ulstermen have a strong voice and a veto over all decision in favour of unaccountable London / dublin joint authority where same said "unrepentant murders" may well be in government come the upcoming elections? How is it right to reject them locally and thereby put them in power over us unaccountably from Dublin? Albert I have answered all your questions - the electorate put SF in power not the DUP - the DUP endorse powersharing, the make up of said Assembly can and will change depending on the voting patterns of the electorate. As to lies like I said when he said never he refered to SF/IRA leaving it open for Sinn Fein to leave the IRA behind and become a normal party. That is not lying. The DUP have always stated should SF step up to the mark there was a way forward. We don`t have to like them or trust them to work together.

4/1/07 11:40 AM

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"will go into partnership with IRA/Sinn Fein" you will note as I stated before that such a statement leaves it open for sinn Fein to abandon the IRA and become a normal democratic party and come into the cold. Sinn Fein have accepted the consent principle, have accepted they cannot bomb the people of Northern Ireland into a United Ireland, have accepted the police and have accepted the courts and rule of law which previously they did not, they have decommissioned their weapons (which was always a red herring any way as they can always buy more). I still do not trust them or like them but that is life. Albert would you be happier for the Dublin government which is clearly linked to the Vatican to rule Ulster by proxy instead? Possibly with the very same Sinn Feiners as junior partners in said government? It seems this is your preference over the DUP having a say and a veto over the running of Ulster. Where are all your alternatives folks? THe choice was London and Dublin joint authority or an Ulster power-sharing Assembly - all other options were rejected? Are you advocating a declaration of Ulster Independence or a declaration of War against Britain and Ireland?

3/31/07 5:33 PM

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Albert you still did not answer the question I have asked you twice now and therefore I can only conclude that you prefer unaccountable joint authority between London and Dublin with no Unionist veto and possibly Sinn Fein ministers in Dublin running Ulster. I also addressed your point in a previous post - if you care to look at your statements Dr Paisleys words say Sinn ein-IRA NOT Sinn Fein, that distinctly leaves open the possibility for Sinn Fein to come in from the cold and become a normal democratic party. I do not agree with them or trust them but they have certainly move quite considerably along that road. THe answer to your question is NO and they have not, the electorate put them in power and certainly not "over anyone" because the DUP have a veto over everything. You can either have these folk in an Ulster Assembly where they are accountable or you can have them rule you from Dublin unaccountably - and it seems you would put them "over us" unaccountably from Dublin with no veto.

3/31/07 1:17 PM

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Albert - what lie are you talking about? Dr Paisley has been quite consistent. If you analyse his statements he refered to Sinn Fein-IRA leaving the door open for Sinn Fein alone to come into the democratic process.
Albert you might be interested in these figures, Sinn Fein are actually the bigger party because they are an All-Ireland party. The DUP however are bigger in Northern Ireland.
DUP 1 MEP (Brussels) , 9 MP`s (London), 36 MLA`s (Belfast) , 182 councillors (Northern Ireland) ( total = 228 )

Sinn Fein 2 MEP` (1 from Northern Ireland and 1 from the Republic), 5 MP`s , 5 TD`s (Dublin) , 28 MLA`s , 250 (126 in Northern Ireland) councillors across the island of Ireland ( total = 290 )

3/31/07 12:40 PM

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Rev Hamilton - well I agree with your main points regarding the churches but Government is different, government is always going to be secular and all encompassing meaning Christians cannot seperate themselves in such circumstances. How is an Assembly any different to the way councils currently operate with all the parties sitting in those? I don`t particularly like it and I certainly do not trust them but surely we can get down to bread and butter issues (as in the councils) which the unaccountable direct rule ministers have made such a mess of?

3/31/07 12:33 PM

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Sam F - If you look up the European Parliament you will find that Sinn Fein sit with the grouping that contains all the European communist parties. If you care to do a little research you will find many such links. For example Sean Garland, former IRA and Sinn Fein, self-confessed communist helped the North Korean communists with their counterfeit super-dollar plot and , was arrested in Belfast to be extradited to the US but was released on bail and crossed into the Republic where he remains.

3/31/07 8:47 AM

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It is the Christians job to stand up and be counted. The powersharing mechanisms in this agreement put almost ALL the parties into government except the very small ones. DUP, UUP, SDLP and Sinn Fein all get ministries. THe down side is that there is no real opposition like in an ordinary parliament. However you have not answered my question at all - Tony Blair has said "partnernship arrangements" between Dublin and London would occur in the absence of a deal. That Albert is joint authority whether the people of Ulster say so or not. We already HAVE Dublin say in Ulster. The North-South bodies that were part of the Good Friday Ageement should have ceased operating 5 years ago but they have continued to operate on an All-Ireland basis unaccountably (because there was no Assemly to hold them to account). Again I ask are you by proxy aceding that unaccountably direct rule from London with "partnership arrangements " with Dublin and the distinct possibility of the very same Sinn Feiners being junior partners in a Dublin government and running Ulster from Dublin is a better deal than an accountable Ulster Assembly whereby the DUP have a veto over all decision and a veto over Sinn Fein?

3/30/07 7:39 PM

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Albert - No, I didn`t vote for Sinn Fein so I did not put them in government. THat doesn`t mean they do not have the right to be. Sinn Fein have elected representatives at Westminster (London), in the Irish Dail (Dublin), in the European Parlaiemnt and now in Stormont (Belfast) as well in pretty much all the distrct councils across Northern Ireland and indeed in the Republic. As to Dublin rule - yo are only correct in the sense that we now have an accountable Ulster Assembly in the absence of which tony Blair made it quite clear he would implement "partnership arrangements" ie joint authority with Dublin completely circumventing Unionist / Protestant input from Ulster but leaving it open for Sinn Fein who may well be junior partners in a Dublin government after their upcoming elections! Have you a realistic alternative that has not been dismissed by London and Dublin? If not then your sqawking is rather pointless and I take it you favour unaccounatble joint authority rather than an accountble but imperfect Ulster Assembly where the DUP have a veto over everything.

3/30/07 6:43 PM

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Albert - I presume from your comments that you advocate not entering a power-sharing Assembly and going ahead with unaccountable London and Dublin "partnership arrangements" where political parties with no representation in Ulster govern the Province - until such time as Sinn Fein as seems likely in the upcoming elections in the Republic become the junior partners of Bertie Ahern in Dublin and then these same people that you object to sharing power with in an accountable Ulster Assembly (where the DUP / Ian Paisley has a veto on everything) would rule Ulster unaccountably from Dublin with no input from Unionists and Protestants in Ulster. Unless of course you have an alternative to either of those options which has not already been dismissed by the British and Irish governments (ie voluntary colaition, majority rule etc).

3/30/07 5:33 PM

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Indeed Christian, I seem to recall recently that Dr Paisley was also praying for a Priest from Northern Ireland who had been shot out in South Africa. I also believe Dr Paisley has been given books on "Saint" Patrick by a priest. Some on here seem to be of the persuasion that we can simply lock ourselves away but the Bible tells us we are in the world but not of the world. Opposition to Roman Catholicism is not and should not be on a personal level - it is perfectly possible to be friends with fellow Roman Catholics and others whilst disagreeing with their faith / doctrines. Indeed the Bible tells us to love our neighbours and love our enemeies. Things in Ulster have changed alot in the last 30 years. It is time to move forward.

3/30/07 5:25 PM

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Are we not told in the Bible to love our enemies? Nobody is particularly happy with sitting down with Sinn Fein nor indeed the power-sharing mechanisms rather than a true democratic majority rule Assembly. However Ulster is a unique place that perhaps needs a unique government, time will tell - 44% of the electorate are Roman Catholic / Irish Nationalist / Republican who seek a United independent Ireland (many seek a Gaelic Roman Catholic United Ireland). The IRA have decomissioned, Sinn Fein now support the police and courts and the principle of consent (that there will only be a United Ireland if the majority in Ulster vote for it). Time to heal wounds, move forward and perhaps this will break down barriers and open up the Republic and Irish Nationalist to the gospel.

3/30/07 5:04 PM

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It is also worth noting that the Roman Catholic Church was aginst the recent sexual orientation regulations legislation that went through Parliament yet Sinn Fein and the SDLP (who both draw their votes almost exclusively from the Roman Catholic / Irish Nationalist/Republican community) voted for the regulations so your point is rather moot - the real problem that most folk have is that marxist Sinn Fein are the political wing of a terrorist organisation but Ulster was stuck between a rock and a hard place - share power or have unaccountable joint London and Dublin rule (and Sinn Fein could soon be junior partners in the government of Dublin.)

3/30/07 4:41 PM

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“ Great Sermon! ”
I'm just wondering how the doctrine of immenency is reconciled with The Lord Jesus Christ sitting at the right hand of the Father until he makes his eneimies his footstool? Are his enemies made his footstool before his wrath has been poured out in tribulation? Just seeking answers to this topic not saying it's wrong or right. For His Glory Alan

3/27/07 8:10 AM

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In answer to the question. Sinn Fein are the political wing of the IRA terrorists guilty of bombing and maiming thousands and indeed of training with the Palestinian PLO, Spanish ETA, Turkish PKK and training Columbian FARC narco-terrorists (indeed Al-Qaeda have also trained FARC recently). Also Sinn Fein are a member of the communist grouping in the European Parliament. Be that as it may many things have changed in the last 30 years and Sinn Fein have accepted the principle of consent, the police and courts and the IRA disarmed. The Republic have removed their claims to Ulster and have removed the Roman Catholic Church from their constitution. The time is right to move forward for a peaceful and positive future in Ulster even in an imperfect "power-sharing" arrangement which I do not particularly like. It is far better than unaccountable direct rule Labour ministers (who we cannot vote for) in London running the place.

3/21/07 7:13 PM

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Neeson is from the Ballymena area. I seem to recall some of the DUP members of Ballymena council objected to Neeson being given the honour - but it was not necessarily a DUP objection or indeed a Dr Paisley object but rather local DUP councillors (Dr Paisley is the leader of the DUP political party).

3/14/07 8:35 PM

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Jim:-
Sunday 13 July 1969
Ian Paisley addressed a crowd at Loughgall, County Antrim, and is reported to have said: "I am anti-Roman Catholic, but God being my judge, I love the poor dupes who are ground down under that system."

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