Rodney, Not answering here for John, but any worship gathering by definition of its character is formal, and it should always be so as we gather in the presence of God, and under his authority and order; subject to elders, gifts, biblical patterns, and the leading of His Spirit evidencing in the conscience of leadership and body. Definitively, verse by verse expository teaching is a must, but it should not circumspect itself around the rigidity of a one-man ministry as in the 98% of present Christian gatherings today, at the expence of neglecting the gift of God in the so called 'laity' which is somehow a relic of institutionalised religious settings of the past. See Bro. John below as he has it well explained. Regards
Rodney K. wrote: Brother, exposition of the Bible IS God speaking to the church.
Bro Rodney, thanks for your post. There are certainly a great many who would agree with you.
I also agree in that the Bible ought to be preached in its entirety by a man of God gifted to do so and called to be a teacher of the word. But this is not what I am talking about.
If anyone for example, goes through the book of Corinthians, whatever happens when they get to this verse?
1Cor 14:26 (KJV) 26) How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
How do they interpret this? Is it a pattern for the church? Was Paul giving instruction on how an assembly should edify one another? Why does it not say, "Let the pastor give out a doctrine"?
Rom 12:4 (KJV) 4) For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:
Paul compares the church body with a human body. Every part is required to work, for the body to work. And the inference is that all have "an office", rather than the RCC pattern where you get a clergy/laity divide, which is not biblical.
John UK wrote: Yes exactly. But it sure requires every member to be walking very closely to the Lord, to pick up on what he might wish to speak to the group for edifying and change. I think this is one reason why the mode is shunned in favour of the prepared sermon, which is often a "series" on a particular book of the Bible, not necessarily relevant to a current situation. Besides, the Bible can be taught by teachers, even when they are far away from God. This takes it into the realm of knowledge without any spiritual input from the Almighty. The big question is, "Who is running the meetings?"
The solution is not to move to an informal setting where everyone has something to say. The solution is verse by verse exposition of Scripture by a man called of God to pastor His flock. You say that the congregation needs to pick up on what He might wish to speak. Brother, exposition of the Bible IS God speaking to the church. As far as it not being relevant to current situations, I believe the Holy Spirit is able to order people's lives in such a way that the Word they hear from verse by verse preaching is EXACTLY what they need to hear. I have found it to be the case experientially. It also means that no topic goes uncovered or is taught unproportionate
Murdering babies is not always the result of immoral behavior, many married women kill their babies as well-http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/abortion-rate-among-married-women-7989582, http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2011/10/most_surprising_abortion_statistic_the_majority_of_women_who_ter.html
It can be a result of selfishness, not wanting to interfere with one's 'career', so the baby is killed. Or, as this lame excuse states from the last link above, " By far the No. 1 reason is a desire to protect the families they already have. Most of the time, this calculus is an economic one, though Baker has also noted a growing number of women like me, women who are â€śless apologetic than they used to be about saying theyâ€™re a good mom and for them to continue to be a good mom, they choose to do it with one.â€ť The fact that many do not value human life is beyond sad.
Well Liberal Lincoln, IF, IF you were truly a Christian, you would stand on God's truth concerning murdering innocent babies. But, since you are not a born again believer, you defend what God has spoken out against. So, in essence, you make an excellent liberal leftist. With that said, is it any wonder you continue to post your ignorance on a daily basis?
Dr. Tim wrote: Like almost all progressives, Bill and Melinda Gates are blatant hypocrites. If they were really concerned about "population control," they would make like Judas Iscariot and hang themselves. Abortion is not about population control; it is about controlling decisions regarding which lives are valuable and which ones are not. "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." (Isaiah 14:14)
No issues with the truth of what you say, save one. Why do you refer to retrogrades like the Gates, "progressive"?
John UK wrote: 1. .. these will all come from within the fellowship, the Holy Ghost granting gifts in accordance with what he wishes ... rather than players and spectators, which is what many churches end up as 2. When church members are thus encouraged to utilise their particular gift in this way, it tends to make them more sensitive to maintaining a good and holy life. 3. ..the CPRC in North Ireland .. in Limerick .. no communion service, because there is no appointed elder there yet
1. Of course, the small print for church functioning is detailed in the Word, yet there is so much in man of depraved nature that such design cannot function aright unless sanctification is in place, as we all are prone to rather follow what it is right in our own eyes out of convenience, pride or stubborness.
2. Yes, much growth develops from that: gifts flourish, idleness vanishes, entertainment is not 'missed', sought, or needed due to people being taken with the things that matter; besides a healthy identity roots in, godly role-models spring up, and if modern individualism is kept on check, the new generation is nurtured in the 'nursery' of the fellowship by the godly imput of the older members.
3. Some reckon that this kind of rule guarantees safety
Why I call Seminaries "Cemetaries " Mt23:26Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. bones, and of all uncleanness.' 27Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. 28Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. 29Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. 32Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
Richard was in his late teens. Heâ€™d been brought up in a Christian home and had only recently come to faith. One thing that stood out about him was his sincerity. You could feel it when you spoke with him. One other thing that was evident was that he was extremely shy.
One day Richard told me about his new girlfriend, who was part of the youth group at the church he attended. He bubbled with excitement as he said how much he admired her.
A week later, to my utter dismay, I was told that Richard had committed suicide. He had been at a youth event and had found out that the girl he so loved already had a boyfriend. It turned out that Richard was so shy he hadnâ€™t even told her of his feelings. When he found out that she was already involved with someone else, he threw himself off a cliff.
If Richard had confided in me, I wouldâ€™ve spoken to him about the predictable and downward path of rejection. It goes like this: Somebody rejects me, so I feel â€śwounded.â€ť It becomes a self-pity and festers into what we see as a justified anger. The anger turns into hatred, and brings with it deep depression, and then in come the thoughts of suicide- Comfort's Exit points to a culture of despair's exit thru Jesus the Door to Life-the Way to Heaven!
Remarkably, we do not hear much of private charities, state agencies or religious activists tackling the problem from the root, say promoting chastity, self-control, parent discipline of teens, or the curving of obscene industry.
"The length of time of an episode or a viewing period is really important and has got to be short, otherwise you just won't keep the attention of millennials," comScore CEO Gian Fulgoni told CNBC's "Squawk Alley."
The format of advertising may have to be radically changed to reach millennials, he suggested.
"You're going to have to make your case literally in a matter of seconds and make sure you grab somebody's attention, Fulgoni said.
Millennials are spending the majority of their online time on mobile, according to the new study. Millennials said they spent 61 percent in smartphone apps and 8 percent on the mobile web. A quarter of their time was on desktop, and just 5 percent was spent on tablets.
As many other studies have shown, Snapchat was found to be extremely popular. Two out of 3 millennials were using the app, with 80 percent of the youngest millennials surveyed on Snapchat. It was also growing in popularity among older millennials.
Still, Facebook was the leader, with 95 percent of millennials surveyed on the platform.
"It's going to be interesting to see what happens over time, especially as these millennials age into the older segment," Fulgoni said.
Twitter may be my new focus- verbosity reduced by format.
When I survey the wondrous cross On which the Prince of glory died, My richest gain I count but loss, And pour contempt on all my pride.
Forbid it, Lord, that I should boast, Save in the death of Christ my God! All the vain things that charm me most, I sacrifice them to His blood.
See from His head, His hands, His feet, Sorrow and love flow mingled down! Did eâ€™er such love and sorrow meet, Or thorns compose so rich a crown?
Were the whole realm of nature mine, That were a present far too small; Love so amazing, so divine, Demands my soul, my life, my all.
give it all up ? extreme. Extreme sports popular. Show the extreme example and attract those looking for a reason to give their lives in a nihilistic world of random spinning atoms.
--micah6:hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? 9 The LORD'S voice crieth unto the city, and the man of wisdom shall see thy name: hear ye the rod, and who hath appointed it. 10 Are there yet the treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked, and the scant measure that is abominable? -- 14 Thou shalt eat, but not be satisfied; --" Extreme answer to modern soulless despair-
Teens laugh as man drowns- The video was shocking in Florida, where shocking videos seem like a genre. A group of teenagers laughed &watched as a man struggled in the water of a pond. The man drowned, &his body was not found for days.
The 5 teenagers did nothing to help him, not even call 911, but after examining the video, the authorities said this week that they did not break the law.
â€śIn the state of Florida, there is no law in place that requires a person to render aid or call to render aid to a victim in distress,â€ť Yvonne Martinez, a spokeswoman for the Cocoa Police Department, said on Friday.
But local police were not giving up. Later in the day, they said that they believed a different Florida law requires any person who is aware of a death to report it,&the authorities would recommend charges under that law.
The man, Jamel Dunn, 31, drowned July 9, & his body was found five days later when the police received a report that it was floating near the edge of the pond in a park in Cocoa, a town with 18,000 people near Orlando.
a family member of Mr. Dunnâ€™s alerted detectives to the video, which the teenagers had begun sharing with friends