Since this thread is going no where at break neck speed... was wondering if some of the folks would comment on what age they were, when it pleased the LORD to open their eyes, and to turn them fom darkness to light, and the power of Satan unto God. Might be a little more edifying and bring glory to our LORD. I was 50. Anyone else?
John UK wrote: Reminds me of the mess the Tories have to clean up after the Labour Party have been in power for a while. I don't know what rules you have in the States for overturning bad laws, but it sure seems that a new Pres will have his work cut out getting things back to some sort of normality.
When a piece of legislation becomes law, the law is endeared by politicians and they are extremely reluctant to repeal it. For example, the Patriot Act was suppose to be temporary. But Obama loves the Patriot Act just as much as Bush did- the same for Democrats as well as the Republicans. Our current Congress thinks that we cannot survive without the Patriot Act.
"So, no matter which party's candidate wins the Presidency, in comparison, President Obama could end looking very good -- from a secular point of view."
Yeah, for looking "good" for impeachment for all the scandals under his administration piled high with the rainbow flag planted on top.
Thank you, John UK! You know SA, really don't like a person to have a string of comments all tied together, though sometimes I really though rarely find that as a necessity. Well, I did give you the polite view quite a few times, of The Biblical Position on The KJV Controversy. Of course a Bible has to be contemporary English, which automatically makes the NKJV, the Amer. KJV, and even the Geneva Bible with modernized spellings etc. Far better than the KJV. But really also how often have I had to point out, Comparing Bible Translations or just to get to the point, Comparing Bible Translations--Conclusions
Are there modern translations worse than the KJV yes, the NWT of the JW's probably worse than the OWT of Anglican Church. But, I consider the New King James Version a much better Bible than the KJV. Of course Westcott & Hort were than Erasmus an anti-Christian. Anglican sometimes Christian--Catholic ones never
As curious suggests "...The words we speak are spirit and life, just as Christ spoke." It would seem that curious is in agreement with Lisa. Words that are spirit and life are of truth as well. I would suspect that,instead of judging peoples' motives who are in disagreement with ecumenical pushers,the celebrity followers might consider that it is more loving to warn in truth than it is to not rock the boat while many succumb to deception. And,yes,KK.I think that in these instances when the vandals are allowed to have at it without the intercession of authorities,that the real victims (businesses and home owners and the like) should switch residences physically with the higher ups who were negligent in their call and those who made such bad judgment calls should have to live in the mess that they allowed for. The big house in the capitol is big enough for the displaced families and the vandalized towns are big enough for the likes of racial instigators.
s c wrote: Re-revisionist,the Apotheosis of Washington is not so subtle after all. Speaking of not being able to see the forest for the trees... Thanks for the item of interest. Anyone who questions whether or not GW was a freemason might like to take a gander at this.
1. The Masons like to worship men,and enjoy deification of humans, as that is their cult. 2.David Barton types give these long tours of the Capital to try to prove the founders were christians, so they don't have much interest in exposing the Satanic implications of things like those shown at
Pretty wild when you see them really letting their cult of worship of man out in the open. Talk about Hero worship! Six groups of figures line the perimeter of the canopy :
War, with Armed Freedom and the eagle Science, with Minerva teaching Benjamin Franklin, Fulton, & Samuel F.B. Morse Marine, with Neptune holding his trident and Venus Commerce, with Mercury handing a bag of money to Robert Morris Mechanics, with Vulcan Agriculture, with Ceres seated on the McCormick Reaper, accompanied by America in a red liberty cap and Flora picking flowers.
Jim Lincoln wrote: First of all getting back to the most important part of the whole topic which I think most of you ignore, except saying it isn't really important that a person can understand the Bible, Apparently you can put the KJV on a table lay your hands on it, and you'll be infused with Biblical knowledge!
Jim the KJV is still written in English and for the most part (approx. 99%) is understandable by most with a basic education in English, unless one has some sort of brain defect.
Hmmm now there's a thought, which could explain a lot. Lol. Could also explain why you prefer to be spoon fed by the "experts" instead of thinking and researching things for yourself. This is all beginning to make sense now!
Wayfairer pilgrim wrote: African culture has had situations which lent itself to homosexual rape or incest, it is a health issue and a sin problem. Africa has been decimated by HIV, they do not need our presdent destroying them anymore than they already have by war, famine or disease.
Maybe,"why is",you should read the article. It does clarify the dress standards for women as well... in a little more detail. Perhaps you should stop being bothered with my concern over the lack of modesty and consider why such is particularly bothersome to one as yourself who claims to be a Christian. You should be bothered by immodesty as well and also rejoice when there are measures made to address it. Got conviction?
History will determine how good of President he was, from a secular viewpoint. He certainly was better than the last one, and considering the menagerie that is running on the Republican side of the fence, just toss a rock into that group, back in 2012 'Are the Republican candidates all crazy?' We have many of the same old faces, but some new faces can be added to this mix bag of nuts. Which Republicans are running for US president in 2016? But I don't think this newspaper was able to keep up with the growing total.
So, no matter which party's candidate wins the Presidency, in comparison, President Obama could end looking very good -- from a secular point of view.
"Despite persecution from Islamic terrorists, Christians in Iraq will not receive any support from the United States government, according to Creeping Sharia.
Though they have been threatened by Muslims in refugee camps run by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, Christians will not be supported because of their religious affiliation, according to the U.S. State Department, which has flatly refused to resettle Christian refugees in the United States.
No ‚Äúpreferential treatment,‚ÄĚ despite the fact that Christianity is currently experiencing some of the worst persecution in its history, according to Archbishop Bashar Warda.
‚ÄúChristianity in Iraq is going through one of its worst and hardest stages of its long history,‚ÄĚ said Warda. ‚ÄúThroughout all these long centuries, we have experienced many hardships and persecutions, offering caravans of martyrs. Yet 2014 brought the worst acts of genocide against us in our history.‚ÄĚ" (worthy news) http://www.christianpersecution.info/
Aha! You were just about to answer the questions, eh Jim?
Well, now's your chance. ______________
Bro Mike NY,
Excellent questions as always from your keyboard.
Yes, I was converted through the preaching of the King James Bible through three different preachers, one of whom illustrated some of his points loosely from Kenneth Taylor's paraphrase, things like "when the flute toots, you all bow down and worship the golden idol" etc. And the preacher said, "You can get it a little straighter from the King James Bible, but anyway......"
After conversion I bought several Bibles, not knowing what to get. Man, there is suuuuuuuch a selection to choose from. I got a New English Bible and a Scofield Reference Bible and other KJV Bibles. And then, what a selection of churches to go to. Where shall I go? The RCC, the Methodist, Baptist, Brethren Gospel Hall, United Reformed, Presbyterian, Pentecostal? Which? I didn't know, so I asked the Lord, and he told me.
Re-revisionist,the Apotheosis of Washington is not so subtle after all. Speaking of not being able to see the forest for the trees... Thanks for the item of interest. Anyone who questions whether or not GW was a freemason might like to take a gander at this.
John UK wrote: I wish I could find a KJV-Onlyist on this forum, I'd try to put him straighter. In ignorance of the textual issue, after my conversion I read the NIV for nine years and the NKJV for a further nine years. The NKJV was a Study Bible. It purported to be translated from the same underlying texts of the KJV translation. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but I knew no different, and I would guess that the majority of Christians know no different. This is why I believe this topic is important, and should be aired regularly. About 2001, I was using the NKJV, thinking it to be reliable and safe. But some believers in the know, pointed out to me the margin notes. And hey, look ye here, what do we have in the margin notes of the NKJV Study Bible, translated from the Majority Texts? Ohhh, wonder of wonders, the magic words "NU" and "most ancient manuscripts"! ---
Bro John, were you converted via the KJ then for some reason switched to the NIV and NKJV? Are you saying that for 18 years, you grew not at all from studying out of the latter two? The Holy Spirit was stymied by versions? Were you becoming less indwelt, or a voice for ecumenism? I'm just curious how this ignorance of the textual issue worked negatively in your life.
African culture has had situations which lent itself to homosexual rape or incest, it is a health issue and a sin problem. Africa has been decimated by HIV, they do not need our presdent destroying them anymore than they already have by war, famine or disease.
First of all getting back to the most important part of the whole topic which I think most of you ignore, except saying it isn't really important that a person can understand the Bible, Apparently you can put the KJV on a table lay your hands on it, and you'll be infused with Biblical knowledge! An American pastor translated Elizabethan into English and came with a readable text of the KJV.
I Corinthians 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine? 7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped? 8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? 9 So likewise you, except you utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for you shall speak into the air. 10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification. 11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be to him that speaks a barbarian, and he that speaks shall be a barbarian to me. ---American KJV
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Rome & Politics
THE VATICAN SEAT NUMBER 666 IN THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT
Report On The Opening Of The Fifth Elected Parliament Of Europe IAN R.K. PAISLEY, M.P., M.E.P. ...
The Seats Of Its Massive Hemicycle...Are 679 Of Them...One Seat Remains Unallocated And Unoccupied. The Number Of That Seat Is 666...
#665 ZISSENER #666 - - - - - - - #667 CAPPATO..."
ACCORDING TO J.V.:
#666 [DEMITRI] !
The Most "Dumbfounding" Thing I've Been Told By J.V. About THE ANTICHRIST-/-DEMITRI-DEMITRIUS Is That HE (THE ANTICHRIST) Is About 238 Yrs. Old ! & That HE Was Born In The Year 1777 (1779 IF You Calculate The Leap Years).
Which Would Make #1)The BIRTH Of THE U.S.A. (1776 A.D.) #2)The BIRTH Of THE ANTICHRIST (1777-79 A.D.) & #3)The BIRTH Of THE TRILLIONAIRE$-BANKING ILLUMINATI-/-SATANIST ROTH$CHILD$ DYNASTY--Via The "Money (Coin) Changing" Business Of MEYER AMSCHEL ROTHSCHILD (1770s A.D.) ALL CLOSELY-SYNONYMOUSLY DATED EVENTS !
J.V. Said THE ANTICHRIST-/-DEMITRI-DEMITRIUS "Ceased" Showing Visual/Physical Signs Of "Aging" Since HIS 25th Birthday (1802-04 A.D.) & TODAY (2015 A.D.) Looks Like HE's In HIS 30s !
**J.V.: DEMITRI Was BORN Within THE BOUNDARIES Of THE OLD ROMAN EMPIRE !