John UK wrote: IMHO, the fact that some Christians use Facebook on a daily basis reveals either that they are or are becoming backslidden, not discerning the evils thereof; or, similarly, that they succumb to peer pressure, and do not have the spiritual fortitude to resist that temptation. IMHO, the internet in general is the main focus of many criminal minds, who use it for their diverse activities. It would not surprise me one whit if suddenly overnight, the bank accounts of over half the population of the world got reduced to zilch. What does one do?
So true John, my husband and myself will not do any Internet financial transactions, much to our banks chagrin, they are constantly wanting us to go on-line and keep reassuring us how safe their firewalls are..ha! FB is not for us...not interested in seeing your vacations, what little Jimmy ate for his after school snack, what new tricks Fido can perform....
IMHO, the fact that some Christians use Facebook on a daily basis reveals either that they are or are becoming backslidden, not discerning the evils thereof; or, similarly, that they succumb to peer pressure, and do not have the spiritual fortitude to resist that temptation.
IMHO, the internet in general is the main focus of many criminal minds, who use it for their diverse activities. It would not surprise me one whit if suddenly overnight, the bank accounts of over half the population of the world got reduced to zilch.
s c wrote: sIt's very much like self promotion. I know of a lot of teens that use it simply to get seen by many.They're "popular" that way.
Just curious, have you ever had a Facebook account?
I have one and have not seen anything about which you are talking. I am guessing the number of marriages "broken up" by Facebook (like it has that power) are few and far between, unless of course you want to document the numbers. Facebook is not the issue. It is just a social network site. If a person has "friends" that put up inappropriate stuff, they need a new list of friends. Which again states the problem is with the individual not the site. Pennnned is correct you do have understand your info is not private.
It is a tool in the hand of Lord. I get updates from missionaries in far away lands, prayer requests from people I do not see, updates on family members. If something comes in that is not appropriate it is not hard to hide the info or even bar the other person from sending you information.
Note the verses I referenced in my first post, they deal again with the people who use it, not the site.
Dorcas, thanks for the message link , the first part of the message would be good for all of us who post here. God b
pennned wrote: --- you should see the things they say about the "masses"! at one point zuckerberg, founder mocked his users for trusting him with their personal information. "they trust me--- dumb #@#%$" -- yep, that's how they see the users.
Oh dear, penny, you said masses. Surely that will remind someone of the Mass, the RCC, and not far behind, Franklin Graham, presently leader on the revolving list of untouchables.
Yes,John,tradition. What you say is very true and very divisive. Family members who claim to be Christian will disown you if you reject man made holy days. My concern is standing for the truth. If we are about the truth as Christians,we cannot go along with tradition and at the same time tell nonbelievers that we care about what the Bible says. They are always smart enough to say where is "such and such in the Bible?" Even nonbelievers can "celebrate" days for the sake of feeling good. What's in it for them? What's in it for us? Do too many government employees really care about President's day or Easter or the like aside from the perks (i.e. day off,paid vacation,party time,feasts,etc.)? And for those Christians who say that it's a special day to worship the Lord. I have to ask. Which day is not a day to worship the Lord? Oliver Cromwell,I'll look it up.
Excellent Sermon! As children of God we all have different levels of faith and that usually ends up being our greatest problem when we face trials. But as Brother Adam states, the Scriptures tell us that the more we use our faith the more our faith will grow. So we should look to our faith as something we must look to in small times of trouble and have belief for God's handling the problem, as equally, your faith will grow to be able to handle the bigger problems. Faith is active and will grow stronger with greater dependenca and usage.
Thank, If you addressed my question,I missed it. I was speaking of husbands watching junk in front of their wives on the television;the internet would apply as well. What's your point? I had made a distinction between facebook and the rest (insofar as participation) What woman in her right mind is sitting with her husband watching a bunch of made up women in immodest dress acting inappropriately and is not honestly bugged? Maybe,if she's mormon or arab (part of a harem)...she might be used to being just another fixture but,whether you men know it or not,any eye candy that you set out to see or know that you will see,needs to go. This society is too lewd. We really don't need to have any information so readily available as to others' private parts. And Christians' shouldn't imitate the world in this regard (viewing habits).
Franklin Graham and the family business is not of Christianity. By their 'come on down' and make a human decision - Which they preach God will obey, the Graham's practice the same old Roman salvation by self action.
Jesus states; 16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you" = Thus Jesus confirms TULIP at Unconditional Election.
Jesus states; 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. = Thus Jesus confirms TULIP at Limited Atonement.
facebook is a public forum disguised as private, more public than anything we would've known, because it is a databasing tool. pictures of children become their property, information is sold to the nearest corporation. can't say this tool is far from common core and its goals, in terms of the potential of clouding any and all info on a young person, its all there. there are frequent stories of censorship, its a way of dumbing down and funneling information, people waste their time there instead of reading the wordier stuff that takes work. its an illusion as well. foolish for us to replace true fellowship and human support for a fa√ßade. I suppose there are uses for it, but as a centralized way to all become fixed to the great brain, well, that's too revelationish for me!
they have done experiments where they reroute things a certain way so that some seem less popular than others to see the effects... these are not the kinds of people you want controlling, manipulating or effecting your God given relationships folks! you should see the things they say about the "masses"!
at one point zuckerberg, founder mocked his users for trusting him with their personal information. "they trust me--- dumb #@#%$" -- yep, that's how they see the users.
s c wrote: For the most part, it's just another device of satan. How many marriages have been broken up or,at the very least, compromised because a spouse got on facebook? Of course, everyone on facebook creates a preferred/overrated image of themselves which they want others to see. It's very much like self promotion. I know of a lot of teens that use it simply to get seen by many.They're "popular" that way. It's no wonder that the end result would be viewer dissatisfaction. If one cannot vicariously live through their entertainment/sports idols or try to "hook up" with someone on facebook, then,unlike the pretense/fantasy aspect of movies, facebook will just leave many discouraged with themselves.
Your comment brought up an articleI read years ago. A pastor somehow found out how many marriages and some in his churchy were destroyed by facebook and he banned his staff from using it. Apparently, people were connected to old childhood sweethearts and were leaving their spouses for them. The attractions for their spouses were wearing off and they thought their old H.S. sweethearts would revive passion. Now even though, like I said, I have never used facebook at all, I'm not all that sure if I agree with the pastors logic but he agreed with you.
s c wrote: If we absolutely know that there is nowhere in the NT showing us that the Apostles or church celebrated "easter" or an annual resurrection day(whatever you want to call it), why do we become "catholic" and submit to the RC church in its observance? What a coincidence.
sc, I don't have "Easter" whatever it means, as it is not biblical. But your point will just bounce off the heads of those who do things without really thinking about what they're doing. Something to do with "tradition", I think. The same thing happens at Christmass time. Very few will even think about what it is they do or why. It is the sad state of many churches that they no longer go by "sola scriptura" but also have the traditions of the elders. Ought to read more Oliver Cromwell.
It's really not that difficult. Matthew 15:19 If we absolutely know that there is nowhere in the NT showing us that the Apostles or church celebrated "easter" or an annual resurrection day(whatever you want to call it), why do we become "catholic" and submit to the RC church in its observance? What a coincidence. None who insist on observing this are ignorant/naive to this fact. Wouldn't one want to be careful not to add to the Bible in this regard? The interpretation of the Bible is not subjective and we ought not to do things which are a stumbling block or makes the Word of God of none effect no matter how fuzzy feeling or sentimental we are. I use "the first day of the week" ,Michael,not"sunday".
Officer Elmer wrote: Are young chaps in you area John used by the beast to satisfy Satan's agenda in some way?
I didn't tell you he was packing, did I? Nor is it in my area, but London. MI5 agent tracking down more Russian hit men chasing after spy turncoats or political rebels. Caught a bus as undercover strategy. Satan involved? Who knows?
Great Sermon! Try not to be bothered about imperfection Richard.none of us can be perfect..you are greatly bkessed by the Lord with the gift of preaching..I can hear Him through you Brother..what a Graceful God indeed..Praise the Lord!
I liked the simpler days of AOL chat and still prefer forum groups.
Where are the archives? How do you search? Where does it all go? People will try to show me something from just the other day and it's just gone. You can scroll and scroll and nothing. Haven't figured it out.
s c wrote: ... I have to ask how so many wives are not bothered or put up with husbands looking at all of these "glamorous"/made up images of women on tv? And why was it ever acceptable to watch programs in which characters would be portrayed as married, or worse now, kissing each other when they weren't/aren't REALLY married? That really counters the Bible.
none of that is readily available on the internet, you'd have to give up the internet to be consistent. Good thing facebook is not an internet phenomenon too.