Pennelope, Obama ended the dispensational foreign policy of the US in 2009, it works great! Be happy Cyrus Scofield has been refuted by a communist Muslim. Really now, you're giving Cyrus too much tin foil hat credit.
pennelope wrote: you all might be interested to see what they say in my link below to their $10,000 challenge to prove the pretrib rapture theory, according to their video Ice brought them this..... "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;" 2 Thess 2:3 what they said is that he says this proves the rapture, that the "falling away" was translated wrong and should mean being caught up. so they are teaching people that the "apostasy" is not the "apostasy" but the "rapture". can you believe that???
Unbelievable, Penny. The things people say to bolster their false premise.
It's interesting that the greek word translated "falling away" is apostasia; thusly there is no doubt falling away is referring to apostasy. And we are seeing that happen before our very eyes. How on earth they get "rapture" from that text is very suspicious.
Thanks for the info. Yes, it was very interesting. And it was Thomas Ice who claimed that? Phew!
you all might be interested to see what they say in my link below to their $10,000 challenge to prove the pretrib rapture theory, according to their video Ice brought them this.....
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;" 2 Thess 2:3
what they said is that he says this proves the rapture, that the "falling away" was translated wrong and should mean being caught up.
so they are teaching people that the "apostasy" is not the "apostasy" but the "rapture".
can you believe that???
so this verse is saying, hey you are going to see lawlessness and a great falling away and the lahaye types are telling you to ignore the plain teaching of the text and think it says you will be caught up before there's any serious trouble???
"let no man deceive you"... is what it says.
reminder: ISIS this week has been beheading babies and dipping people in acids to their flesh falls off... as they die like this, they can thank God they aren't in the "great tribulation"? its like the western church is in child's play.
Eric Metaxts has written books on Bonhoffer and Wilberforce and as a writer or as a guy who just makes being smart cool again has some views on Clinton and Trump that are surprising. My thoughts are that yes, Trump is a bore but has yet to be proven a tyrant. Obama has, and to parrot a valley girl, whew, Hillary most definitely has. But, Trump has peeled back the scab of what a 20th century man looks like. I'd even say, Trump goes back to even further. The reason he resonates with blue collar workers and fly over country is because people are sick of Kardashian politicians. Selfies, push up bras, and your whole existence is based on your sexuality and sin. The guys at Tractor supply and the Case International store only know , they are no longer important enough to be a factor in politics. But, without them this country with its selvies, sex with anything and hatred of the bible and the people who pray, Has collected. Fly over country what's a son of a gun who lets people know they want their country back. I know far to many people who just want their country back and this is their last stand.
and otherwise leading a campaign that counters the NWO enslavement of the west, physical and spiritual.
maybe he saw the corruption from the inside and thought, "I'm too smart for this".
course we know evil isn't just "outsmarted" but there is a spiritual battle.
enter the church.
problem is that he sent a signal to the neocons when he.... asked for opening of 28 pages.... showed concern for Christians being murdered by ISIS in the ME and even wanting to work with Putin to stop them.
this signal is why the neocons are working full time to keep Hillary going.... NOT because he's not conservative enough for them.
evangelicals will not know how they are played until they come out of Scofield and open their eyes to the Kingdom of God and how the Kingdom is built. (ie read their bibles)
trump promotes states rghts for schools and other issues which means Christians can get involved at state level to end many of the terrible edicts of the supreme court.... except, they don't want that, they want the king to do it for them, don't want to be offensive but have it politically taken care of without their political voice (ie keep corporate status)
reminder: Scofield more anti arab notes published 1967, same year
Now John MacArthur a Five-Point Calvinist had this to say, and apparently he's no fan of Tim LeHaye.
John MacArthur said or, wrote: Now I know at this point somebody out there is going to say, "Oh boy, he's in to the Left Behindseries." No...I'm not in to Rapture-fiction and I'm not in to wacky charts. You don't see me up here with a big chart and a stick. And I'm not in to newspaper exegesis where you...everything that happens in the news fulfills some obscure Old Testament prophecy. And I'm not in to all kinds of complex charts, and I'm not in to all that is traditionally known as dispensationalism, seven dispensations, two kingdoms, two New Covenants, two ways of salvation, discontinuity between the Old Testament and the New. I'm not talking about that, relax. Set all that aside. I reject the wacky world of newspaper exegesis and cartoon eschatology and crazy interpretation like the locusts of Revelation 9 being helicopters, etc.
And Jim, the fact that essentially all bible believing Christians disagree with you on the democrats is a good indication that you're probably missing the mark. You're in league with Unitarians, Jeremy Wight type church's, PCUSAs, etc. I know few, if any, born again, bible believing, Christians who would vote democrat post 2008. You can't get around the abortion platform, the transgender platform, the gay platform, the loss of religious liberties platform.
She's a warmonger. She's a baby killer. She's a liberal judge appointee. She stands against freedom of conscience. She a crony capitalist in bed with the bankers. CS Lewis: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." Trump is the robber baron.
CJ wrote: I'm in a quandary over who to vote for. I would appreciate hearing from the brethren some of your thoughts about what is a Christian man to do in this sort of election season.
Hi CJ, People should be asking you, as you are from Indiana and know Gov Pence better than the rest of us. What do you think of Trumps first Executive decision? Since I cant vote Clinton, its either Johnson (Libertarian Party), Trump or a write in.
-And from the article whats with this voting for the lesser of two evils bologna? Every election has been that way.
Obediance after we've been given the knowledge of what is expected of us. The theif didn't have any time left to be obediant, so his simple, last minute, true blue belief was credited to him as righteousness. However, for us, who have His Word, know His Word, and are with the complete knowledge He left for us; His instructions for Christian living, morality, and proper doctrine, etc, we are without excuse. To love Him, or to embrace and trust in Him, as you always say, is to be obediant to Him and live according to His Word to the best of our human ability. Knowing what we know, and what's expected of us, we can believe all day long, but can we express a belief while living our lives in disobedience?
Thirteen to 20 percent in the next 20 years? My electricity bill has increased more than that in the last 3 years here. Add to that the government here allowing the gas company a FIFTY percent increase PLUS 13% more in tax.
Great Sermon! Appreciate this message and thankful for the reminder from Scripture that God has drawn us and that all of eternity depends on whether we are part of the few or one of those who left and followed Him no more.
Agreed Mike Eddy America is in fact in many ways the creation of the Vatican as well, and now provides its mercenary army. We cover this relationship extensively in our video series "America the Babylon: Daughter of the Harlot" (links above) seen on our SermonAudio homepage and website here: http://www.independencebaptist.com/america-the-babylon.html