I would have to look, but I remember the president of the NAACP several years ago going on record with that exact comment. (Homosexuality is NOT the same as race.) As I recall, he was pretty offended by the suggestion that they were similar. I don't remember what happened afterwards, other than a bunch of sodomites getting mad.
By the way, after just reading the latest posts in another thread, I should mention that I don't feel I'm judging as if I'm without sin, anyway. Some things in life just affect me different and sodomy/transgenderism, etc. are a couple of the main ones. I'm still floored that Bruce Jenner (I refuse to refer to him as "Kaitlyn") is being presented with the E. Murrow award for courage. Hmmm. Really? Courageous? Brave?
Hilarious... These dopes don't realize the style of their statue is the same as Middle Age depictions of Satan meant to mock him...especially with the goat head. This is how the real devil works; by using an article like this to keep your mind off real devilry.
Jessica Dawson wrote: Paul says: ..." But those who are outside God judges..."
I grant that Paul speaking in 1 Cor.5 is speaking of the greater excommunication and in this cause for incest. The greater excommunication is executed by the keys conferred by Jesus Christ, the Church's Head and Husband through the Ministry. When he states "but those who are outside God judges; Isn't that what Romans 13 is addressing in calling them a terror to those who do evil? God gives the definition of evil and good else we'd be left to the vacillating opinions of mutable men. Rom.13:3 "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:"
All men are bound by conscience in things temporal to the powers ordained of God to execute His judgments in the civil sphere; this has to mean when they are in agreement with what is written. When they are not how can our conscience excuse us? Deut. 29:29
The article states "Supreme Court affirms gay marriage" This is the civil sphere where Christians who are in this world, though not of it; clearly will have conscience issues with the Supreme Court Injustices' law of opposition to God's; and not for the first
Jessica Dawson wrote: Paul says: "For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges..." Here is a link to 1 Corinthians 5, which explains how sexual immorality must be dealt with in regards to both God's people, and unbelievers: 1 Corinthians 5 New King James Version (NKJV) Jesus commanded that The Gospel be preached to every living creature, and as believers we are hated for testifying that the world's deeds are sinful. Yet God's people do not have the authority to judge/punish sinners, because the sinless Saviour Who walked the earth and died for our sins, proclaimed He came not to destroy people's lives but to save them. Luke 9:51-56 New King James Version (NKJV)
Jessica, I understand your thoughts completely. But, if I repeat what scripture says, then I am not judging anyone; the scriptures are. So, if scripture says that homosexuality is an abomination and those that practice those things will suffer the wrath of God; that is not me judging anyone.
Jessica, are you referring to this in 1 Corinthians 5?...
"It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
"And ye are puffed up, and have not rather MOURNED, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you."
"To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."
That is to say they would not mourn the great evil, but continued on as if it was no big deal, maybe he was a man of stature so they didn't want to make him feel bad for his sin and abuse, instead they should've asked him to leave the fellowship as he was doing great evil....
Jesus commanded that The Gospel be preached to every living creature, and as believers we are hated for testifying that the world's deeds are sinful. Yet God's people do not have the authority to judge/punish sinners, because the sinless Saviour Who walked the earth and died for our sins, proclaimed He came not to destroy people's lives but to save them.
Steve, I wouldn't have thought of that one. but it is also obvious, they didn't put - - SA- - a picture of Marilyn Monroe there. so, I think would been natural for anyone to mention that he was a black pastor. but also, no doubt knows the topic a little better than many of us here. A problem has been looking at this question about discrimination most of his life - - even when he didn't want to. so, I think we can consider him probably an expert on the topic.
Just how many blacks do consider this a civil rights question-- those who are not homosexual? my guess would be very few.
Interesting thoughts about who should and who should not obey Godâ€™s laws. Sin is repulsive to God, so repulsive that those who die in their sins will face His judgment. So, if something is offensive to our heavenly Father, then why would I not care if people practice those things whether they are saved or will become saved or never become saved. At the various judgment scenarios that are noted in scripture; the sins of the sinners are noted. See Mt. 7:21-23, Jo. 3:19,20, Re. 20:11-15.
So, if someone wants to take the easy way out, they simply donâ€™t tell unbelievers that their sins matter or are offensive to our perfect Savior and will cause His wrath to be poured out. I know these thoughts are overly simplistic and although I donâ€™t believe I am called to be a social activist, I will speak out against sin on this forum or on the street when opportunity presents itself. If it is repulsive to God, it should be repulsive to us. I know of no scripture where God tells the saved or the unsaved that it is okay to sin against Him and in a way all are held to the same standard; namely perfection. The difference is Christâ€™s perfection has been imputed to me, so I am not under the law of sin and death.
Thanks Jim. Yeah, the thought did cross my mind. Actually, it was my first thought on it while reading. I guess I would say that out of all the past Popes who made some sort of public apology, I would credit this one as actually being sincere, other possible motives aside. I view him as a renegade Pope and sincere, although doctrinally deceived. I'll take a look at the article though. Thanks.
The link Jessica posted asked: "Why would we expect non-Christians to behave like Christians?" And "Why would you hold the world to the same standard you hold the church?"
It seems to me that if the law is our school master to lead us to Christ then it is a law that God expects every creature to obey as their Sovereign
Paul was preaching to pagans in Acts 17:28-33 on their turf and he said "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter. So Paul departed from among them.
We expect men to obey God's law because God does. To say otherwise is not loving seeing they will come under eternal condemnation