Lisa wrote: When I was truly born again I did not need any conviction from the flesh of man- true salvation must be of the spirit. Being truly born again is a terrible experience and standing before god as a hell bound sinner cannot be induced by a man. If you read of revivals you will see that men were stopped in their tracts by the supernatural power of god and they came in repentance to the churches begging-what must I do to be born again. Can I say it again- when I was truly born again I could hardly speak for at least 24 hours....I sat in my pastors kitchen and tried to make sense of it....to come to the realisation that I was indeed dead and no longer living. The gospel is the power of god. And yes we must affirm what our king feels on these matters, but much ( o dear how much you will never know) am I forgiven. How could I go around pointing the finger and whipping others with nettles. It is I that deserve the nettles....
And now because you're so spiritual the Spirit communicates directly with you, and that's why you treat the word of God so lightly, and disdain those who put any value on it. You now live by gut feeling (which you refer to as living in the spirit) and think that this is living by faith. Truth is you just want attention.
When I was truly born again I did not need any conviction from the flesh of man- true salvation must be of the spirit. Being truly born again is a terrible experience and standing before god as a hell bound sinner cannot be induced by a man. If you read of revivals you will see that men were stopped in their tracts by the supernatural power of god and they came in repentance to the churches begging-what must I do to be born again. Can I say it again- when I was truly born again I could hardly speak for at least 24 hours....I sat in my pastors kitchen and tried to make sense of it....to come to the realisation that I was indeed dead and no longer living. The gospel is the power of god. And yes we must affirm what our king feels on these matters, but much ( o dear how much you will never know) am I forgiven. How could I go around pointing the finger and whipping others with nettles. It is I that deserve the nettles....
Good point Obvious. These Bibles from what I understand is something they can take home and read, and hopefully something they don't have secular school teachers try to tear down, or for that matter Catholic ones, Roman Catholic Authority (PDF).
Gil Rugh said or, wrote: ...sometimes I am asked how come Christians who claim to believe the Bible have so many different opinions regarding future things. The issue is how do we interpret the bible. The beginning point is very simple, God created us to communicate with one another and with him verbally. And so it's just foundational as we talk about interpreting the scripture that we follow certain basic principles of language and communication. And when we depart from that, we bring in confusion.
Lisa, I think you do not respect the role that God gave to men as protectors.
It's one thing to disagree on theology or fact, but you seem to want to belittle the qualities that make men what they are...
these orgy parades are aggressive and unacceptable behavior on the streets of any society, it wreaks of chaos, perversions and abuse of the innocent.
any loving father would feel disgust, just as I do when a car swerves to scare a pedestrian or an elderly woman is pushed around in the grocery aisle.. you want people to not be pulled into these perversions, and abused and confused, then you should encourage the Godly men that hold back evil in society by their good deeds and righteous living and sacrifice to their families!
Ah, Susan, sometimes old adages are true? "It takes a thief to catch a thief." Unfortunately while many of us like Lutherans, we do have trouble with Martin Luther's Sacramental Gospel. We wish the conservative Lutherans could get away from that!
But Camping made his bundle from the wool he fleeced from many sheep.
Okay letâ€™s say we encounter homosexual activists or simply those who are living in and practicing that lifestyle. We rightfully tell them that all fall short of Godâ€™s standards and they have to repent and be born again. They say they have repented and thrown themselves on the mercy of Christ and are born again. Do we then confront them with their sin of homosexuality and lovingly but clearly explain to them that they are practicing an abomination and canâ€™t be saved regardless of their viewpoint towards that behavior. I think that was all that Mike was saying and I think that was Lutherâ€™s thoughts when he said we should fight the battle that presents itself to us. If it is homosexuality, then that is the battle. If it is total depravity and the need for God's grace, then that is the battle, etc.
So comforting. What a beautiful memorial to a beautiful woman. Sometimes it seems the Christian army shoots their wounded in difficult times. I want to thank you for reminding the us that no one can pluck us out of His hand. That his comfort, love and strength is ours. God bless you.
SteveR wrote: Agree with what you sense Lisa, its here Its important to notice how they handle Scripture. Do they handle it as a Love Letter sent to them, or a battle manual & uniform they stole off a wounded soldier.
The word of God is the sword of the Spirit for our spiritual battle : something you find distasteful because it discovers your true identity you fox.
I used to listen to Family Radio on shortwave years ago and Harold Camping was predicting that the end of the world was going to be in 1994. He said back then the Bible says "No man knows the day or the hour" but it doesn't say the month or the year. I was starting to get mixed up by his teachings and wrote a letter to Pastor Norheim, formerly of the Lutheran Gospel Hour. He replied, "Stop listening to them. They are mixed up."
Lisa wrote: Romans 12 vs 14 bless them that persecute you: bless and curse not ( in fact this whole chapter is informative).
Good text. And Paul gives the reason:
Romans 12:19 KJV 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
This is the coming day of wrath, when God shall blast his enemies, and repay them for all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed. Cast into hellfire, where is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
This is the one aspect of the character of God which we are not to be sanctified unto. Vengeance belongs only to God.
Gil Rugh said or, wrote: Principles from scripture for giving indicate it is to be voluntary, regular, proportional, and bountiful. This grace giving is in recognition of all material and spiritual needs having been first given by God.
Lisa wrote: The only person I know who used the book of Enoch without being convicted of god about it turned out to be a witch.
Jude was no witch (warlock).
Get your brain in gear, Lisa. Please.
You asked about the non-canonical book of Enoch, and I quoted a verse from him which the apostles accepted was a prophecy of Enoch given by God. Now you can argue till your face goes blue, but the text in Jude IS canonical, and he quoted directly from the Book of Enoch.
As for the rest of the Enoch ms. I have no idea about that because I have not read it. The fact that it was not accepted within the canon is good enough for me, and I would never promote it as scripture nor authoritative. Except for the prophecy which Jude quoted, of course!
BTW, why does Enoch get a capital E and God gets a small g?