If you had looked at the article you would have found that "The 20 Greatest Names in American Revolution" Only 4 might have been truly Christian, "Summary: 10 Masons, 3 probable Masons, 1 Humanist, 2 Advocates of Freemasonry, 4 no record of connections....Summary: 15 of 56 Signers were Freemasons or probable Freemasons.
re to analyze the Declaration, he would see the humanistic influences.
In any event, there is no evidence that even 27% of the signers [of Declaration of Independence] were true Christians. In considering whether or not this is a Christian nation, it isn't the number of Masons that is as important as is the number of founders overall who were non-believers....Even if the initiators of the Revolution had been Christians, the fact remains that the Revolutionary War and the nation's government were structured by the tenets of Freemasonry, not God's Word....
Scripture tells us that God has made one nation of all: the Church. It is the Church that is our "Christian nation," not the social and political institutions of the world."
Another reason why this policy is deliberate--the Democrats need more street thugs. Hitler had his street thugs, the Brown Shirts who were predominately homosexual. Ernst RĂ¶hm would send out his Brown Shirts, Sturm Abteilung SA, to rough up Hitler's opponents. May be Obama is creating his own Brown Shirts to rough up anyone opposed to the Democrats.
Comforting Sermon! This is very comforting as it gives us a deep and complete meaning of "All things work for good," which too often is misapplied in events in our life. There is a complete understanding that we have to know as Christians to fully benefit from "all things." Excellent sermon.
(TMC) @Penny 1. I didnâ€™t say anything about Hitler- my brother did. That said, I agree with him and think that the fact that one of the most evil men currently on the planet has endorsed Trump, that Trump is considering Pro-Choice Christy as VP and is Ms. Richardsâ€™ favorite Republican, and the fact that he has adopted Hitlerâ€™s â€śBig Lieâ€ť technique many, many, times are all serious red flags for me. Iâ€™m not saying Trump will be a Hitler- I am saying that he takes advantage of the same underlying philosophies and fears to gain power. 2. I do get it. My family and I have been involved in helping our Siblings in Christ in the ME and Africa for many years. We were on top of the CIA gun running- Syrian connection a few days after Benghazi happened. However, Russia is NOT helping out of the goodness of their little hearts- they have very specific oil related interests in the area and have done precious little to actually hurt ISIS. If you study the maps they are targeting the wrong areas of Syria. IMO, neither Trump nor Clinton will do much to help the Christians nor are either of them sufficently concerned over the evil that is brewing in Russia right now.
Kev wrote: 1)The laying on of hands for regeneration is not something man does. 2)Leviticus 1:4 'He shall lay his hand on the head of the burnt offering, that it may be accepted for him to make atonement on his behalf. 3)You see this is an outward action that men do in place of water baptism to represent the inward action of our sins being imputed through belief by The Holy Spirit, to Jesus. 4)This passage further supports idea of imparting of sin and that it is not him who decides who should have hands laid upon: 5)1 Timothy 5:22 Do not lay hands upon anyone..
1) The laying on of hands for baptism by the disciples was something they did. As I just explained in my last post. The idea of laying on of hands in Acts 8 shows that the Holy Spirit was given through them. 2) There isn't any mention of sin being imparted to Christ through baptism. 3) Christ paid for our sins once and for all at the cross. They certainly weren't imparting sin to Christ after the cross. 4) I am leary of any idea that needs to drum up support because of a lack of sufficient evidence. Jesus decided that believers should have hands laid on them. 5) In context, means not to judge to quickly or partake in sin either. Remain pure.
Dear brethren, i don't have the time to post at length, and so to help those of you who have a gut instinct that J4 has it wrong, but are finding it difficult to put your finger on it, I should like to point out that the Quakers in the 1600s held to the exact same position and there were very many books written to refute their position.
Notice J4's assumptions:
1. John Baptist's baptism was the only water baptism and was for the Jewish economy 2. Jesus only ever baptizes with the Spirit (see John 3.26) 3. All NT believers were baptized by the apostles with the laying on of hands 4. There is only one baptism (but what about Heb 6.2?) 5. Believing alone is not enough to be saved (implying one can genuinely believe and not be baptized with the Spirit) (This is plain wrong!)
The question is how did the apostles understand it. Take the day of Pentecost after the Spirit had descended. What were the 3 requisites that Peter insisted on to be saved? See Acts 2.38
This alone should suffice to destroy J4's case, but I am sure with the hints given you will do a sterling job of addressing his errors.
MS wrote: The Vatican must have released some more funding to their dupes, they are blanketing the board today with their usual robotic rhetoric.
You really are in need of psychological help for making such a statement. If my Independent Baptist friend got saved at age 12 during an Altar Call at his Independent Baptist Church then Altar Calls do result in individuals getting saved and are not unscriptural.
You can find out even more about the earlier career of Paula White who apparently has/had a condo in Trump Towers as you can read about as go down the page of the URL I referenced,
Carol Brooks wrote: L. Ron Hubbard (Founder of Scientology) once said "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." While our modern day evangelists have not started their own religion, they have unquestionably improved on Hubbardâ€™s idea. Capitalizing on Christianity has proved to be far more lucrative than starting a new religion. But as the Bible tells us.. evil men and impostors shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. [2 Timothy 3:13]
Dobson is a bloody idiot for saying all these stupid moronic "Trump came to Christ/is a new baby in Christ" statements. He needs to keep his stupid mouth shut and let Trump speak for himself and be judged by his actual actions. I have no respect for Dobson for these bs comments about trump, he shows how utterly ignorant and naive he is about humanity itself.
ladybug wrote: The trolls like John Y. parrot his usual garbage about altar calls. He is a perfect example of the point both MS and I are trying to make. He claims to have accepted Jesus as well, yet his fruit is rotten. He cleaves to the Devil's church and defends that dead religion. But, he has made a profession of faith right? So, is he a child of God or not?
I have an Independent Baptist friend and he was saved at age 12 during an Altar Call at his Independent Baptist Church. My Independent Baptist friend is a better Christian than you and every other Evangelical Protestant on here is. So cease with this nonsense that the Altar Call is not scriptural. If I was not really saved and guided by the Holy Spirit would I have started to know immediately after the Altar Call(Where I embraced Jesus as Savior and started trusting entirely in Him alone for salvation) under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to know that there are unscriptural Catholic doctrines and unscriptural parts to the Mass? The answer is no because it is impossible for one not guided by the Holy Spirit to know that there are unscriptural Catholic doctrines and unscriptural parts to the Mass.
Buckeyes wrote: (TMC) @Penny â€śall this hullabaloo because of a false priestess.â€ť --- @Mike Some of us believe that â€śprovidenceâ€ť to be a judgement. This has played out multiple times in history and each time has been a disaster. You have to watch the other hand. Last I checked the Bible says that when the wicked rule the people mourn. Both sides are evil and you want us to rejoice?
Correct, providence can be a judgement; incorrect each time providence is in all cases a disaster. Analyze the word. Also nothing was said about rejoicing, no need to add imaginations
NeedHim wrote: It very often happens that the converts that are born in excitement die when the excitement is overÂ… Some of the most glaring sinners known to me were once members of a church; and were, as I believe, led to make a profession by undue pressure, well meant but ill-judged. C.H. Spurgeon
A set of complementary verses from the Old Testament, Connor, something of a more immediate concern for an adulterer.
Proverbs 6 32 The one who commits adultery with a woman is lacking sense; He who would destroy himself does it. 33 Wounds and disgrace he will find, And his reproach will not be blotted out. 34 For jealousy enrages a man, And he will not spare in the day of vengeance. 35 He will not accept any ransom, Nor will he be content though you give many gifts.---NASB
It very often happens that the converts that are born in excitement die when the excitement is overÂ… Some of the most glaring sinners known to me were once members of a church; and were, as I believe, led to make a profession by undue pressure, well meant but ill-judged.
Dr. Martyn Jones: â€śThe invitation should be in the message. We believe the Spirit applies the message, so we trust in the power of the Spirit.
I feel that this pressure which is put upon people to come forward in decision ultimately is due to a lack of faith in the work and operation of the Holy Spirit. We are to preach the Word, and if we do it properly, there will be a call to a decision that comes in the message, and then we leave it to the Spirit to act upon people. And of course He does. Some may come immediately at the close of the service to see the minister. I think there should always be an indication that the minister will be glad to see anybody who wants to put questions to him or wants further help. But that is a very different thing from putting pressure upon people to come forward. I feel it is wrong to put pressure directly on the will. The order in Scripture seems to be this â€“ the truth is presented to the mind, which moves the heart, and that in turn moves the will.â€ť
I knew you would bring this up somehow so I answered you John 4J before you ever answered GS Montana. Please tell me from below what you don't understand about laying on of hands being an outward symbol of something inward, just as water baptism is.