Even Jesus couldn't get along with the religious people of his day, as he told them that they search the Scriptures because you think they have in them eternal life, but here I am and you do not come to me! How much that applies even moreso to many Bible experts today!
Duke Lasconian wrote: ... you haven't even mentioned the divisions that are easily visible here at SA among Arminians, Calvinists, KJV-only, etc...
Observation: ââŚ there must be also heresies (differences/divisions) among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.â I Cor 11:19
Though we are exhorted to seek unity, truth always divides: âSuppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather divisionâ Words of Jesus who is light, and truth. Luk 12:51
Throughout history, the church of Rome managed 'unity' at the expense of truth.
However, genuine unity thrives as a result of truth.
Eph 4:13: âTill we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christâ
Converted wrote: I have recently become a Catholic because I feel loved.
I married into a loving Catholic family. I know many in my community who are Catholic and are kind, caring, honest and hardworking.
But, they are taught from childhood that trusting in Christ's finished work alone is not sufficient to inherit eternal life but must be accompanied with individual merit of good works. Therefore, the external goodness which you see and experience as "love" is their contribution to their salvation. They are animated to good works by a fearful spirit of eternal condemnation if they fail to be good enough. This is not of the Holy Spirit.
It's good to feel loved but infinitely and eternally better to be loved by God than to find temporal comfort in the love of a congregation which has been deceived into believing there is anything they can do to merit salvation short of trusting on God's mercy and loving kindness alone.
Luke 18: 13-14 And the publican would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Good point, Wayfairer Pilgrim, I think you are onto something there. Even within the doctrinal walls of the larger Protestant churches, you will find a 'contemporary' service and a 'traditional' service. I have heard some of the traditional sort opine that drums are a sign of the devil, so they will never attend the contemporary service where drums are played as part of the service. And you haven't even mentioned the divisions that are easily visible here at SA among Arminians, Calvinists, KJV-only, etc. The old saying that if you have 2 Jewish people in a room and ask them a question, you will get 3 opinions, really applies better to Christians on the Internet.
Most cults offer love and acceptance. You may in fact feel loved, but the issue is whether or not the Lord knows you, not whether or not you have a feel good moment. If you ask any of the RC leaders where you worship, are they saved or how do they become saved; you will simply get a blank look. In other words, the best they can offer is a false purgatory where all those who died with venial sins, can atone for their own sins and those that had mortal sins will be damned forever. I would read what MS suggested you read and if the Lord is calling you that should lead you away from the RCC. The gospel is simple; repent of all of your sins and throw yourself at the mercy of the cross; trusting solely and finally in the sacrifice Christ made for the sins of mankind. Salvation is based on the work of Christ and the mercy of our heavenly Father - period.
You may find some false love with the RCC, but you won't find the gospel message.
Mike wrote: "... teach people how dangerous it is to carry blades." Who listens to this rubbish? Men without chests?
Sissies without law,common sense, a Bible, nor a Lord ; gelded cattle fit for slaughter.
1. The Bible 2. Montesquieu 3. Sir William Blackstone 4. John Locke ... take Jesus literally when he COMMANDED His disciples to buy a sword even if it meant selling oneâs clothes in order to afford it. (Luke 22:36) If that doesnât make the right and duty to keep and bear arms a divine mandate, I donât know what does. And remember, too, that the sword Jesus told His disciples to buy was the same sword that the Apostle Paul said that civil government bore in Romans 13. Jesus was not talking about a pocketknife, folks. He was talking about the most sophisticated, efficient self-defense tool known to man at the time: the Roman SWORD . âBut if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidelâ? (I Timothy 5:8
Converted - becoming a catholic because you feel loved is false conversion. Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. AmI agree with MS - spend much time in the Word and not tradition. Repent and believe and have a relationship with the living God.
Thank you Christopher, and yes, I have had better opportunities too see that not all Pentacosts are wild eyed , aside from their intoxicated worship services, some are caring and helpful by far, they are the most intragrated group of followers I've seen. I do wish we as Christians could become more intergrated and loving. in churches, we're still devided by race, " worship styles", and age groups.
Converted, I would advise you to pick up your Bible, pray for understanding, and read the Gospel of John, Romans, Galations, and Hebrews, over and over. May the Lord be pleased to give you light and understanding. God Bless.
2 Tim 1:13 hold fast the form of sound words. But the translators of the last 2 hundred bible versions ignore the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers 2 Tim 2:14. The only profit seen is cash in the bank for followers of balaam
They must do strange things in Ohio. Do people gather on Washington's birthday to learn or discuss anything about him? Do they go to hold services at the Lincoln memorial and say prayers to him?
When I was growing up people would venerate our founders (regard with great respect) but idolize was not being done. Nowadays most people would have little clue who they were never mind tell you all about them, their lives, etc.
Read your Bible and see what people did for idols, they offered sacrifices, said prayers, bowed down and worshiped them, cut themselves, etc. Check out Hebrews 11, there is nothing wrong with speaking highly of and even emulating those who have gone on before, it doesn't mean they are being idolized.
By the way secular history is important. Did you know that those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it. Read a few of Spurgeon's sermons and take note. Even you make your points about Christmas and Easter based upon, gasp, secular history and of course your interpretation of the Bible. Check out Paul's sermon on Mar's hill.
History certainly doesn't have the spiritual benefit of reading and studying the Scriptures, and we would all do well to find it the source of our musing and meditation.
Converted wrote: When I read sincere prayers for the wayward, my heart is moved in such a way that I weep for their repentance & I pray that they will see the love of God & what He is willing to do & what He has done.
I have recently become a Catholic because I feel loved.
This is not a good reason to become Catholic.
But if you stick it out, you will find in time that not only your weeping is effectual in saving sinners, but also your suffering will enhance the redemption of Christ. You will, yourself, become a redeemer of souls.
It will not be long before Mary herself is accepted by the RCC as co-redeemer with Christ. Personally I find this most distasteful at best and blasphemous at worst.
However, I wish you well on your spiritual journey, and hope that one day soon you will see the need to believe in Jesus Christ alone for your salvation, without works, and that his righteousness is put to your account freely through faith in him alone.
I agree with you on this sc. there's way too much giving up on people. reminds me of the scripture, "love thy neighbor". I also think this is supposed to be a fundamental role of women in the home, as healthy food prepared well and healthy water are the foundations of physical health, as provided by our Heavenly Father and caretaking of the sick. Good day.