Mike wrote: Being counter-culture generally fits the Christian life well. But culture is constantly changing. Do we then say fixed opposition to everything in culture, whatever it is, is the mark of the Christian? Seems like more a reflex than Christian thoughtfulness. When we oppose something in the culture for no other reason than "I'm a Christian, that's the culture, so I can't do that, or wear that, or sing that, etc.," we've lost our way.
Principle always finds a way to overcome ungodly culture, but personal pretexts are overcome by, or sucumb to ungodly culture in no time
This hand sign is interesting and I have never even pondered why it is used. After a little research, I have decided that it can evil or simply a gesture.
Anyway, Joel Osteen serves satan in his ministry, so I could care less what he meant by the hand sign.
Many things in our culture can have different meanings to different folks. Another good example is saying "God bless you" to someone who sneezes. Look up the origin of that and you will see that its origin is evil.
Trying to define Christian dress within our cultures will mostly fail because the culture is evil. Notice I said mostly. But, if I am a Christian woman and live in a culture that bans jeans, like a Muslim country, then I shouldnâ€™t wear jeans. If they live in a country that encourages immodesty, they should separate. In our culture, an attractive carnal woman will behave as if she is an object, but when confronted they will fight against that thought. Proof; how many famous male athletes/entertainers donâ€™t have beautiful wives/girl friends. Carnal women buy wealth/fame with their bodies, men buy beauty with their wealth and fame. A form of prostitution.
Now, I will agree with sister Ladybug here and say the modesty issue is primarily a conscience issue. If a woman is dressed immodestly and for some reason she doesnâ€™t understand that; IMO she has not sinned.
But, here is a practical thought that can work in our Christian communities. A father/mother should not allow their young daughters to dress immodestly. A husband should not allow his wife to dress immodestly and a pastor should not allow immodesty among his membership. If my wife and I were getting ready to go out and I thought she was dressed improperly, I would tell her to change or turn on the TV.
Mike wrote: "Home Secretary Amber Rudd said: "[Monday's attack] was more sophisticated than some of the attacks we've seen before, and it seems likely - possible - that he wasn't doing this on his own."' Ok, I'll bite. What is "more sophisticated" about a guy blowing himself up in the foyer of a stadium? Even barbarians can figure out if one thing won't work, try another.
imo- It was a sophisticated threat, not a sophisticated attack
The largest terror incident, next to Bishopgate, in post WW2 history occurred in Manchester, when the IRA detonated a 3000 lb bomb in the city. The IRA warned the city, and 75k people were evacuated. ISIL by making this small attack in Manchester is threatening an IRA scale type bomb, but they wont warn officials like the IRA did
imo- that's why the UK pulled the panic button and put 1000s of soldiers in the streets. I think ISIL made a demand, and this is the first of several attacks if the UK doesn't cooperate
ladybug wrote: Rather than attempt to 'show' our Christianity by opposing the culture, it should be manifest in our actions and words, and in walking as Christ walked. Love and humility are the 'dress' we should adorn. Outward appearances are what the Pharisees considered important. ---
Outward appearances- an easy trap we all need be careful to avoid. That love and humility will result in the necessary modesty.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Guess what, John, even Romanism teaches, Luke 10:27 And he answered, â€śYou shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.â€ť---ESV Hmm, now I got that out of a Protestant Bible, John, is it only liberals and/or Catholics who believe it? I think the Notre Dame crowd was quite civil since they were expected to listening to the one of the representatives of the White Power Party.
The reason those students at Notre Dame University protested Pence is because they are liberal Catholics and not conservative Catholic Republicans. And thus those liberal Catholic Democrat students along with every other liberal Catholic should be excommunicated from the Catholic Church so that there are only conservative Catholics left in the Catholic Church in America.
The only comment I will make is a quote from Grandpa Munster on an episode of the Munsters Television Series: "That's right Herman, your next step should be skid row. But with President Johnson wiping out poverty a bum like you has got no place to go.".
Arthur Bright wrote: Why target children? The most upsetting aspect of the Manchester attack is that it targeted an event primarily attended by the teenage and pre-teen girls that make up Ms. Grandeâ€™s fan base. Thatâ€™s likely not an accident. Terrorist attacks in Europe have becoming disturbingly familiar, enough so that they sometimes fail to shock an evermore inured public....
All these attacks were tragic, and no victim is worth less than any other. But from the perspective of terrorists who are trying to stir anger and fear across Europe, the more familiar attacks become, the less effective they are. A terrorist act that provokes a stoic response is a failure.
This attack may not have been completely by a lone wolf and that he may have had a support group? http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40032504 ---' Home Secretary Amber Rudd said: "[Monday's attack] was more sophisticated than some of the attacks we've seen before, and it seems likely - possible - that he wasn't doing this on his own."'