I am baffled how the French are in denial of the Islamic takeover of France. This generation of France will undoubtedly respond with the effete saying " I am Charlie Hebdo! I am Charlie Hebdo!". Instead, the French should say "I am Charles Martel- the Hammer and I am booting you and your nasty stinking moon god religion out of France".
Kev wrote: Acts 19 which I mentioned below the person was baptized without direct knowledge of Jesus by John then came to the knowledge of Jesus and was baptized again when he had the full knowledge unto salvation.
It's late and I've got an early day tomorrow but briefly.....
John's baptism did not impute any righteousness whereas baptism into our risen Savior does. This is what the verse in Acts 19 is about:
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Col 2:10-12 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Through baptism into Christ, we are partakers of His righteousness. That is the gift of grace.
Yes Lurker I really like your comment and I see the parallel of the covenant of circumcision and paedobaptism and just as circumcision was replaced with the more perfect circumcision which is of the heart, so should believers baptism replace or be done after this christening a child to God, which is very similar to the the covenant of circumcision mentioned in Gen. This is the only reason I haven't sided totally against infant Christening(I would not baptize my infant) I don't think it is even similar to believers baptism and should never replace it. If you were to have one or the other believers baptism is the far greater sign as Jesus is the New Covenant we are in, by Grace through faith and only believers baptism is a picture of the only covenant that is now valid which is by faith to Jew and Gentile circumcised or uncircumcised. I like Acts 19 which I mentioned below the person was baptized without direct knowledge of Jesus by John then came to the knowledge of Jesus and was baptized again when he had the full knowledge unto salvation. Which we know there is no other name by which we must be saved. This can shed light that when the proper knowledge of Jesus Christ comes and one believes this should be followed with believers baptism. Hope this makes sense only so many letters
GSMontana, "Jimmy the links Lincoln" I like that; sounds like a mafia hit man. I guess in this case it's the Democrat mafia putting out a hit on Republicans.
Jim, What's with all you people wanting us to get in a war with Russia? Putin has taken a stand against abortion and sodomy, so he's closer to God's will than Hitlery. That may not be saying much, but when did Russia or Syria attack us that one should be advocating war like the neo-cons and globalists constantly do? At least Putin was really going after ISIS instead of using it as a cover to overthrow Assad like the U.S. When are we going to mind our own business and quit destabilizing the region?
SteveR wrote: But when Lurker abused Zechariah 11. I intervened.
How'd that work out for you?
Only in the fanciful land of the paedo-baptist can one have so much fun and the admission price is free!
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I see you tried valiantly to get some substance on infant baptism to no avail. Of course you know why... there is none. But here's the low down as I understand it.
In Gen 17:9-14 God gave Abraham the covenant of circumcision (heart and flesh) and required circumcision of the flesh of all males on the 8th day. From there, this covenant is declared extant for all time (which it isn't) and 8th day male circumcision is translated to new testament infant baptism for both male and female. While I grant OT circumcision of the flesh and NT lower water baptism are one and the same... no biblical warrant is provided for the baptism of infant girls. The paedos just decided it was so and it was so.
While Steve won't touch Zech 11 except to deny it points to Abraham's covenant; Beauty and Bands were the 2 covenants in the flesh and soul of Jesus incarnate; Beauty being the covenant of peace (love God, life, Deut 29-30) in the soul and Bands being the Sinai Covenant (death) in the flesh which Jesus nailed to the cross (Col 2:14).
James Thomas wrote: Kev in San Diego For your assignment tomorrow give this a listen and I am sure you will be able to pick up on some material you can present. http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=91314616480 The lecture is titled... "Why you can believe the Bible." Voddie Baucham God Bless
Yes James Lurker is another very wise commenter here on SA like almost every single poster here. He always has some great input. What do you guys think of this verse. Looks like someone baptized before they knew of Jesus Christ(John's baptism), then heard of Jesus Christ and was baptized in His name when they came to the full knowledge of the Lord. Is this what this passage is about? If so that would parallel a need to be baptized after knowing of Christ even if you were baptized before without the knowledge of Jesus Christ as would an infant for example. What do you guys think on this passage? Boy this would surely show the need for believers baptism over and on top of any other form of baptism. It's funny this verse just "happened" to come up on my daily bible reading, isn't that cool.
Acts 19 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the na
Wayfarer Pilgrim wrote: I still think that come October that Clinton will have a 5% lead over Trump and win the presidency. Picking one poll out of ten and saying Trump is in the lead is not realistic. However, if the US has a couple of France like attacks, Clinton will be demolished. She could win the middle if she wasn't kissing Sandinista Sanders posterity. But, the Clintons cannot pivot and make their case that this election is in the best interest of all Americans. Sanders, Obama and Trump all sucked up all the air in the room. If she looses, blame her and her predecessor.
I can't say my limited observations are indicative, but around here in my travels, I've seen one or two Hillary signs, a few of Bernie's, and a notable number of Trump's. I know this State has always been in the tank for Democrats, but you can't tell it from the signs this year. Maybe we don't want Hillary to do for the country what she did for NY.
They say the television's control is in our hand and we can turn it off whenever something offensive is presented. But we cannot accept this argument for two reasons; 1) When we are absent, our children may not be able to prove whether the content of a program is damaging, 2) We ourselves are corrupt by nature and lust after evil things. And therefore cannot always trust ourselves to turn it off when we know we should.
"Following the nuclear attack by Russia, Israel is cleaning up the bodies of dead enemy soldiers for 7 months and setting out on its 7 year planâ€”both per the prophecies in Ezekiel"
Russia has got to be the bad guy ALWAYS because, well because its in these fiction novels.
Doesn't Revelations give blassing to those who follow it and curses to those who close it or add to it?
prophecies are not given so that we can vote republican and vote for wores! they are given to change our walk with Christ so that we can be a living witness. Prophecy has to do with our character as His people. If we are obedient, we will be ready, how many friends have I known who were afraid of the future and held on tightly to these ever changing stories about red heifers and moons, instead of being filled by the Holy Spirit?