How does one find his way in such a day? It seems to me the best way is to separate from those who will not. This is the simple way.

On the other hand I have no desire to assert that the likes of Piper, Moler, J-Mac, and RC are lost. I do fear for them greatly, but for me the best path is to no longer listen to them or to recommend them.

Sir, You play fast and loose with ideas.

Luke 9:55b ...Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

Rufus wrote:
The church does not need to yoke up with the state to become tax exempt as the church is non taxable to begin with. Incorporating and becoming 501c3 places churches under the authority of the state.

A Church does not need to become a 501c3 to be tax exempt.

By becoming a 501c3 one becomes a creature of the state, and should therefore obey the regulations it agreed to per Romans 13.

Wake up to this! Getting a 501c3 is largely a human tradition being passed on in ignorance of the law.

Bible Meditator wrote:
I am glad that God brought me to the King James Version...

Praise the Lord for our English Bible!

Frank wrote:
I will say this; for some alchohol (sic) is bad and for some it isn't.

The use of alcohol is unwieldy.

The consequences enormous if one falls into the easy trap of misuse. This substance undoes self-control!

How are the principals of Romans 12 and 14 to be followed if those in leadership, and those in gospel witness are involved in the public use of alcohol?

This notion of yours is a dream and a shake that will bite many unto eternal ruin.

Why do celebrity preachers get away with this kind of thing? One moment they say one thing, and the next they undermine it.

Have a look at John McAuthor's rap video, all in fun I am sure...

Is this how to listen like a man? Look like a hood and talk like a fool who cannot speak English?

(ya his name is Johnny-Mac and he knows he is fresh)

This is fresh all right...

Frank wrote:
Rick Warren is clearly a false apostle, therefore any who give credence to his doctrine, testimony or his ministry are guilty by association of the same offenses. Piper has distorted the blessed gospel of our Lord and Savior by his public ministerial comments and he should be separated from by the body of Christ.
His church should fire him and no one should read or listen to him until he repents of what he has done. Unless the subject of what he writes or speaks involves his repentence for leading so many astray, I will ignore them altogether.

Here are a few (from their website)

This is j3, I am to lazy to sign in right now.

Before I got saved this summer I was 24 years a professor of Christ. I had experiences and knowledge, but no power or joy. All I had was wrangling and jangling, bitterness and gall.

Listen to me friend, please...

For the sake of your soul, Jim, give this a rest.

I will make a deal with you. I will promise to stop posting on SA for 90 days if you do the same.

Be good to your self friend, let us turn aside and seek the peace of the Lord for a season. I believe God will bless us! What do you think?

Will people now clamor for the old NIV, and make a fuss to bring it back?

What a bore!