Strat wrote:
My post spoke about American history not world history,and its just too bad for those that are offended,the baby boomer generation is the most wicked in AMERICAN history

Duh wrote:
Spurgeon had a balanced view:
[URL=http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=QIv4YF3MaFwC&pg=PT71&lpg=PT71&dq=charles+spurgeon%27s+work+on+John+Wesley&source=bl&ots=_X-PHTF4LW&sig=g5ov1rYJE5h7wxgkqfyd0i1IYJg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dYX-UuCjMo6ThgfmnYDACA&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=charles%20spurgeon%27s%20work%20on%20John%20Wesley&f=false]]] Read from bottom of page which starts with the words THERE IS NO SOUL LIVING who holds more firmly[/URL]
All 5 points - the more you come to know Presby with the 1000 monikers, the more you will wonder about him and his standing in the faith. One thing is for sure, he has harmed the Presby cause no end!

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Hosea 8
7 For they sow the wind, And they reap the whirlwind. The standing grain has no heads; It yields no grain. Should it yield, strangers would swallow it up.---[URL=http://www.lockman.org/nasb/nasbcmp.php]]]NASB[/URL]

13 O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name.

14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.

15 Thou hast increased the nation, O Lord, thou hast increased the nation: thou art glorified: thou hadst removed it far unto all the ends of the earth.

16 Lord, in trouble have they visited thee, they poured out a prayer when thy chastening was upon them.

17 Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O Lord.

Biblical Presbyterianism wrote:
The excerpt you quoted above your post comes from Matt 7:21-23.

Made you look right but if you were right-hearted you would not have misquoted me. Just a error maybe? There is another option you are not what you claim to be and you have done much harm to truth because of your twisting of it for your own purposes. I hope it was just an error. See my original post.

Jessica Dawson wrote:
"he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body"
"Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?"
~ 1 Corinthians 6:18, 19 NKJV

Biblical Presbyterianism wrote:
I am surprised that you would think that Rutherford or any Reformed Christian would think differently.

Strat wrote:
Ok,i'll bite,what does that have to do with collectively the most wicked and lawless generation America has ever produced,responsable for its incredible decline over the past 60 years ?
They will reap what they have sowed,is that not biblical ?

Biblical Presbyterianism wrote:
But don't forget Michael there are many who call Him Lord, Lord and cannot really mean it. Roman Catholics, Arminians, Free willers, Wesleyans et al Cannot be Elect of a Sovereign God.

No man knows the heart of another man. God alone knows the heart. I could prove that from many places in Scripture. We imperfectly recognize our brethren by what they believe and their fruits.

I have learned the hard way that a broken Church, leaves a broken world, nation and family. Mark 3:23-25

Michael Hranek wrote:
honestly thank you for pointing to Jenny Geddes, as in the confused world of today's ecumenism etc. there are things that ought to be likewise protested.
Having been raised RC I have been heartbroken to see many in the Reformed/Calvinistic group enamored develope cowith RC writers

The 1st book Holy Baptism is by a man who had a study in the Scripture magazine if I recall right. He changed to a number of 'Denominations' after conversion and continued to study. His name is Duane Spencer and what I learned from him was the reason I believe sprinkling and laving is the only mode that is Scriptural and that is different from the WCF, that allows for immersion.
I was convinced from Scripture argument. He taught me like the Spirit first taught me in both Testaments. I was converted in Exodus 20 on my knees after reading a book. I didn't know what I was, but changed by God.

Michael Hranek wrote:
All 5
Being a Baptist type believer-

In the kind Providence of GOD I was my first year given 3 things that were to be greatly used by my Prophet (like unto Moses, Yehoshua the Captain of my salvation) who steers my course.
1. The Sovereignty of God A.W. Pink
2. A sermon tape of Albert Martin to the large number of young papists coming out of Rome in the 80's from Act 14:21-22 this has been my experience
3. A Reformed Presbyterian Workbook that required my Bible to answer the questions regarding biblical doctrine

Thirty four long and difficult years has been my pilgrimage thus far to a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Ah but GOD is good to Israel!!! Psalm 73:1

Michael we disagree I am a woman and not a teacher. I am a student that I fall not prey to errors that abound on every side.

Michael Hranek wrote:
All 5
Being a Baptist type believer we are likely to have disagreements on how some modern day 5 pt Calvinists/Reformed distort genuine Biblical doctrines into a context that is actually opposed to Christ and the Scriptures
Yet thank you for mentioning the protest of Jenny Geddes, an example born again believers today ought to be ready to follow/imitate as the Spirit leads in the (quote) eveangelical climate of today that seems to be rushing and falling all over itself to return to the Roman Catholicism it came out of yet appears never purified itself of in things like infant baptism (sprinkling), adoring Augustine and his writings (a doctor of Roman Catholisim)
Consider this
Many "Reformed" don't as yet join in ecumenical worship services with Catholics (I hope everyone reading this post knows there are irreconciable differences between RCism and Biblical Christianity) or have a RC priest speak to their congregation
but behind the scenes they appear to be drinking in the theology/ideas of Augustine and other Catholic writers, especially in music and pro-life issues

Chad727 wrote:
All 5 Points, thank you for your comment and book recommendation.
God's ways are the best ways, everything else is altogether vanity.
Psalm 16:11, 34:8

3 But to the saints that are in the earth, and to the excellent, in whom is all my delight.

4 Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another god: their drink offerings of blood will I not offer, nor take up their names into my lips.

Psalm 34:11-19

I have appreciated what you have written on SA so far. You have been a good example in words.

Stevenr wrote:
In 1990 I was in the National Guard, and we were "practicing" because some yahoo scientist said we would have a New Madrid earthquake in December. Part of the extra "training" was classes in putting down a civil insurrection. We just happened to trust those in charge a little better back then...

Chad727 wrote:
The majority of those single Christians might not be Christians.
2 Corinthians 5:17

Strat wrote:
The baby boomer generation will be the most hated and despised of any generation America has produced,they are the generation that opened the flood gates of wickedness and perversion,removed God from the public square and eagerly handed the country over to tyranny in exchange for a wicked playground of apostate delights....

Yesterday the Lord verified Psalm 50:14,15. He read v. 15 with unction to my spirit. I did not see what the Lord foresaw. Tuesday, I was visited by DSS. The LORD did mightly uphold me and gave me the words and cleared me of a false witness. and what I learned is; they are educated as to what to look for as anti-government. I stated the truth when this government agrees with the Word of GOD in the Ten Commandments I will be their subject, but when they disagree with GOD I will obey GOD (as he has helped me to do) Praise ye the Lord!

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Maybe you can enlightening me to the meaning of Rev. 19:10. Based on what you have said about the other passages you listed, my understanding of it can't be close to anything you see.
Thank you for the kind remark Shane.

Unprofitable Servant wrote:
First Amendment is....

If we were once a plantation of Britain, a nation that swore as a Nation to be for Christ and Him alone as well as establish and defend the true religion and three nations joined in an oath and league to God to labor as brethren to agree in the Lord in Ministry making the Church One as stated in Ephes. 4 and the differences between the offices of Ministry and Magistracy (as you pointed out, the civil law is for the men of this world because God's people have the law of God written on their hearts); then were our founding fathers free of that oath sworn on behalf of their posterity to disestablish the truth of the Word of God?

Will you and I agree in the Lord without a work of GOD upon both of our hearts?

It was called revival and reformation and it was short lived but effectual for generations to come for whose good the sworn biblical oath to GOD was taken to preserve the truth. They knew it was not by power or might but by God's Spirit and he would uphold the Church through all 1260 years of apostasy as explained in Rev. 11&12. and stated in Ephes 4:11-16