Hey TMC there is actually an account of the approximate time of year Jesus was born right there in the account of Jesus's birth in Luke 2:
Luke 2:6-8King James Version (KJV)
6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
In that same night there were shepherds abiding in the field at night.
In that region in the winter they use to put the livestock inside. This is why they had barns for livestock and is also why it is mentioned that the livestock were outside at night or there would be no room.
So winter is actually not a very biblical date for The birth of Jesus.
I'm surprised they didn't notice that from scripture. What website did they say Jesus was born on the 25th and always try to remember who controlled records of History after the time of Constantine so many times records will be suppressed that disagree with the RCC.
Duplicate Sermon - Lesser Quality Audio This is a duplicate sermon - however, this is also the copy that has the lesser quality audio. The sermon listed as "Get Thee Behind Me, Satan" with the comma in the title is exactly the same BUT the audio is much, much cleaner and clearer.
Jim: Sadly to state but our large cities like Chicago, DC, & others, that have been Democratic run for multiple on going years. Have the highest murding rates in the nation & also, at the same time, the strictest gun laws in the nation, as well also.
Secondly Abortions are the number one killer in minority neighborhoods, what a hypercritical joke, when pro-deathers, talk about specifically about health care for families.
Thank goodness regardless who is in the Whitehouse, their is no King, but Christ alone. For their is no other means that one can be saved, through His saving gift of reconciliation alone. For one isn't prepared to die, without the saving gift of His justifying act of imputing His righteousness into ones life amen.
Buckeyes wrote: (TMC) ... saw the Church's responce to Bill Clinton in their childhood are hard pressed to see anything but hypocrisy in "Christian Leaders" playing mental twister so they can endorse the candidate of their favorite party ... such things as honoring your marriage vows and telling the truth matter or they don't. A lack of concistency is killing the Church's ...
It is relevant to admit that the church missed the fact that autocratic states can disguise as 'democracies' and by missing this, we may become engulfed in the inconsistencies of the game.
Ruthless Nero did seldom ask for a 'referendum', which taught the believers of that day the reality that
"they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit" Rm 8:5
What one is voting for, one can not exactly be sure is the will of God.
"As you know not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so you know not the works of God who makes all"
The church has been called at times to live under repressing regimes, though prayers ... for all that are in authority are called for, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
(TMC) About women not getting the vote: I wish the father and husband's role as family representitive in the public sphere would have been preserved. For a woman to be a "Suffragette" would seem to clearly indicate non-submission and disagreement with their father or husband's representation of them. Thanks to Feminists "success" (and men's caving) in the early 1900's, the votes of Christian family men are drowned in a sea of votes from single mothers looking to the state as their provider and protector. Nowadays, the best way for a wife or daughter to strengthen the impact of their husband/ father's vote is to vote the same way he does, thus giving his voice more weight.
Good morning, John You Kay...I've been noticing your little comments about how useless all the news items are. : ) I think they're all relevant, for the most part because they show the state of the world, the state of man, the Bible true, its prophesies right on target still today, and the Lord's return ever so close.
John, you know the answer perfectly well. You said yourself how highly intelligent you are, so why even ask such a question? There is nothing good that comes out of the church of Rome, doctrinally speaking. You know this, but still ask why it's wrong to attend? That's not an example of intelligence, but willfull blindness. The mass itself, as you so well know, is a literal and continual re-sacrifice of Christ on the cross because the church teaches that His once and for all finished work wasn't really sufficient to forgive all future sin. Heresy, blasphemy, and lies, yet you ask what's wrong with going? Either way, I'm still glad you took a step in the right direction and will hear God's Word taught and preached as it should be.
(TMC) @Conner Jesus's birth on Christmas day was calculated in the early 200's using the following method. It was a wide spread, long standing Jewish belief that great men died on the date they were concieved. Early Church fathers calculated Christ's death to have occured on March 25th. Thus, they also thought that Christ was concieved on that day, and they calculated His birthday as being 9 months later- December 25th. Interesting to note, that even well into the Middle Ages people thought babies where born on the same day of the week they were concieved. This determination of the date came before the pagan Roman festival that would later fall on that day. As for gifts- see Matt 25:40. Also, I accidently ended up on a Pagan/Wiccan website while researching this last year, and they are fully convinced that Christmas is NOT a pagan holiday and do not celebrate it.
S.Taylor wrote: Why do Christians feel obligated to vote for someone in violation of their own conscience?
... voting for morally offensive candidates ... ... look the other way at certain sins just to get "the right man" into office
... impossible to increase morality by putting an immoral president in office
Significant comments, however voting is not compulsory yet, and one can abstain by faith because of conscience sake if wished.
If we were to know all that is in any man's heart as Christ did, we would not even entrust our dog into any office, not only because of the depth of man's sinful nature, but due to unworthiness against our high expectations.
One of the proofs for the existence of God is the world-wide uniform sense of 'morality' permeating the cultures of earth deriving from the fact that man has being created in the image of God. However, the influence Christ-likeness exercises in any society is what we should be concerned about and this comes from blood-bought people.
Living in biblical Sodom, Babylon, David's Hebron, Moses's Horeb, or in our present Western connotation will present a range of different scenarios due to the influence godliness and assimilated revelation renders into any given society.
Great Sermon! Such a wonderful passage - Pastor Edward Donnelly preached on this several years ago as part of his sermons on the doctrine of justification - i have never forgotten the analogy or the importance of this foundational doctrine .
Example of this lack of historical context? Blank looks when referring to Hitlery
as Queen Athaliah Hitlery-
fellow Christians draw a total blank on that story given for our instruction. 2Ch.22&23 10 But when Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all the seed royal of the house of Judah. 11 But Jehoshabeath, the daughter of the king, took Joash the son of Ahaziah, and stole him from among the king's sons that were slain, and put him and his nurse in a bedchamber. So Jehoshabeath, the daughter of king Jehoram, the wife of Jehoiada the priest, (for she was the sister of Ahaziah,) hid him from Athaliah, so that she slew him not. 12 And he was with them hid in the house of God six years: and Athaliah reigned over the land
... 23 10 aAnd he set all the people, every man having his weapon in his hand,.... 11 Then they brought out the king's son, and put upon him the crown, and gave him the testimony, and made him king. And Jehoiada and his sons anointed him, and said, God save the king. 12 a Athaliah heard the noise of the people running and praising the king, she came to the people ... 23bAthaliah rent her clothes, and said, Treason, Treason. /-/
Ignorance of previous mistakes leads to repetition of errors.
(TMC) @ S. Taylor That is so very true. Even beyond those who are children now, those Millenials, such as myself, who saw the Church's responce to Bill Clinton in their childhood are hard pressed to see anything but hypocrisy in "Christian Leaders" playing mental twister so they can endorse the candidate of their favorite party. Either such things as honoring your marriage vows and telling the truth matter or they don't. A lack of concistency is killing the Church's witness and the hypocrisy is why young people are leaving it.
Thatâ€™s the blockbuster revelation from a former Clinton family operative who is sensationally breaking ranks with his one-time bosses to speak to The National ENQUIRER in a bombshell 9-page cover story â€” on newsstands Wednesday.
â€śI arranged a meeting for Hillary and a woman in an exclusive Beverly Hills hotel,â€ť the man, who was hired by the Clintons, via a Hollywood executive, to cover up their scandals, told The ENQUIRER ... Whatâ€™s more, it wasnâ€™t just Hillaryâ€™s flings with women that the shadowy Mr. Fix It helped to orchestrate ...
Hillaryâ€™s former bagman finally confessed to The ENQUIRER just how he helped her to cover up her affair with married lover Vince Foster, too!
The shadowy figure â€” who provided PROOF of his employment for the Clintons â€” also revealed 12 fixes he covered up, including:
Real Science vs 'could have happened' Worth hearing. If it's hard, listen twice. Danny lays out good science that glorifies God's hand in creation. Baby constellations in distant space alone is incredibly strong evidence for a universe made in a day.
put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.
2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil;
neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment:
3 Neither shalt thou countenance a poor man in his cause.
4 If thou meet thine enemy's ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again. 5 If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him. 6 Thou shalt not wrest the judgment of thy poor in his cause. 7 Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked. 8 And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous. 9 Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
30 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land. 31 And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: -/-- God promised to set a boundary for this nation that He established as an example.
The statement 'God voting for Cyrus' is an excessive anthropomorphism that intrudes badly the sovereignty of God. God does all things according to his purpose, because he works all things after the counsel of his own will, (Eph 1:11), which is far beyond what we are able to do or decide as mere limited humans. To align our puny voting dilemmas with the eternal working knowledge of his will may be over simplifying. Neo Calvinist logistics often derive too 'smart' conclusions by such reasoning.
Let's give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar by faith in the One who is not taken aback by what man is going to do in the end. At the same time let's not play God as if everything depended on us, knowing we pertain to a kingdom by which righteousness reigns.
"My kingdom is not of this world: if (it) were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews" Jh 18:36
"I appoint unto you a kingdom, ... That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel" Luk 22:29-30
"... receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace ... with reverence and godly fear .. the removing of ... things that are shaken ... that those things which cannot be shaken may remain" Hb 12:27-28
Why do Christians feel obligated to vote for someone in violation of their own conscience? The damage done to millions of Christian consciences will be far greater than any damage Clinton could ever do.
From now on voting for morally offensive candidates will be easier for Christians. Greater compromise and justifications are just around the corner. Our children are watching us. They see our compromise, and how we can look the other way at certain sins just to get "the right man" into office.
It is impossible to increase morality by putting an immoral president in office. It will only serve to bring the presidential office to a new low!