Thank you lurker I don't know too much on this topic but like you said I also don't believe in dispensationalism. The whole idea of them rebuilding the temple that is in Ezekiel made me think if they started offering sacrifices for atonement of sin after Jesus did that I would have to say would be a horrible thing and directly against so many things. This is why I thought of Isaiah 66. Thanks for the help brother.
Kev wrote: Hey Lurker, did you see the article I listed below they want to rebuild the temple and have sacrifices for sin in this rebuilt temple. Could this be what Isaiah 66 is talking about and what the antichrist will enter a rebuilt temple and declare himself. I don't know much on this topic but looked up this Dr. Ice Jim gives links to....
Yes, I saw it Kev. Just so you know, I usually ignore Jim when he goes off on a dispy tangent. I've read a little of his favored Dr. Ice and all I can say is .
The temple and animal sacrifices towards the end of Ezekiel? Ha! That was the temple Nebuchadnezzar destroyed and Cyrus ordered re-built (Ezra 1). It's ancient history, Kev. The only reason the dispys see it as future is probably because of a preceding prophecy like the valley of dry bones (Ezek 37) which Jim thinks is going on right now (since 1948 when Jews returned to the land of Israel) when in reality it took place when Paul began to preach.
Such are the confusions brought on by a rigidly literal interpretation of the OT forced on the new covenant age writings.
Is 66:1? David (Branch of Jesse) builds that house (Zech 6:12), a spiritual house (1 Peter 2:5). See Acts 7:47-50. Not the same house that Cyrus ordered re-built.
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Hey Lurker, did you see the article I listed below they want to rebuild the temple and have sacrifices for sin in this rebuilt temple. Could this be what Isaiah 66 is talking about and what the antichrist will enter a rebuilt temple and declare himself. I don't know much on this topic but looked up this Dr. Ice Jim gives links to and read this rebuilding of the temple and giving animal sacrifices for sin. Of course: Hebrews 10:4 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Just found this very interesting. If you can see what I'm getting at. I liked your comment too I hold a similar view as you.
Youth in Asia wrote: I would like to hear your opinions on the purpose of the tribulation. Â As a Pre-Trib, I see it as judgement and to make an end to wickedness and to break the stubborn will of the Jewish people. Who will one day mourn the one they pierced.
(Isaiah 13:9 ESV): Behold, the day of the Lord comes.....
The day of the Lord marks the END of tribulation, not the beginning. The day of the Lord's vengeance is judgment day of the just and unjust.
Is 34:8 For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
1 Thes 5:2 .... the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief.
The "night" is the tribulation..... a time of spiritual darkness..... when truth has fallen in the street and equity cannot enter. (Is 59:14) Sound like the present state of most of the so called churches of this day?
MS wrote: I would add to your post US that this continual slander of Christians and sc obsession with naked cheerleaders, professional sports, holidays and wine has become an embarrassment as a whole for this forum...people reading her comments and our responses must think we are all crazy. God is not glorified in this fiasco.
Thanks MS, it is unfortunately so true that she makes our threads unprofitable which is sad because she can say profitable things. I fear her focus is much more on things of the world than the things of God.
The Bible says, "Who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this *present evil world*, according to the will of God and our Father." Nothing about ignoring it because we allegedly "dropped the ball"
Just a nobody, I would to God your statement rang true, but she says these things whether or not any respond. It is almost like she wants to stir the pot. Maybe we are finding out she is SteveR's alter ego.
I would vote that the moderators (what is the 3rd or 4th time this has happened) close this this thread as I know she will not come up with any proof for her statements anyway.
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I would like to hear your opinions on the purpose of the tribulation.Â
As a Pre-Trib, I see it as judgement and to make an end to wickedness and to break the stubborn will of the Jewish people. Who will one day mourn the one they pierced.
(Isaiah 13:9 ESV): Behold, the day of the Lord comes,Â cruel, with wrath and fierce anger,Â to make the land a desolationÂ and to destroy its sinners from it.
(Zechariah 12:10, 11 ESV) "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn. On that day the mourning in Jerusalem will be as great as the mourning for Hadad-rimmon in the plain of Megiddo.Â
I see it as a the most horrible time in earth's history. Nobody wants to be supernaturally punished by the power of God. But the Bible speaks about it.
In Â Zephaniah 1:14-17 makes the day of the LORD as a time of darkness and universal, meaning across all the world.
"I will bring distress on mankind,so that they shall walk like the blind,Â because they have sinned against the Lord;Â their blood shall be poured out like dust,Â and their flesh like dung
sc You claim "The facts are that many Christians condone or support pro sports/collegiate sports with naked women." Do you have evidence of this claim? Is there anyone here who has done this? Again, Iam asking for proof for your continual slander of the brethren concerning your accusations. Rather than trot your opinion out there as if it were gospel, back what you say with fact. If you can't, then cease from the rhetoric.
Just a nobody, I realize ignoring her may be a choice some make, however, she needs to be held accountable for her wildly false accusations against Christ's elect. She spouts off with her opinion with no evidence to back her rants. This is unacceptable, we cannot go around slamming others based on our pet peeves.
How much a nation loves its citizens can determine how well a nation can survive war. But, if we don't declare war, this will continue to just be murders by fanatics. On another note, Islamic immigrants are being brought into Europe because birth rates in Europe ( years of abortion and birth control) has lowered the sustainability of a nation to nothing. Islamic immigration is not the answer.
We've been left to allow for the natural order of things and the freewill of man to play out. If I were to jump off a building tonight, praying with all faith beforehand that God would have an angel catch me, etc, I'd have an appointment with death tonight. If I were to break my leg, and pray over it, refusing to see a doctor to have it set, I'd be disabled for life. If some thugs were planning to crash my home tonight, torture, murder and rob me, I would be dying tonight. Faithful Christians, preachers, missionaries, and children the world over get raped, abused, and murdered daily because of mans freewill and Satan's current charge over the earth. I believe that God does intervene at His pleasure, but for the most part, I believe He expects us to utilize the common sense he gifted most of us with, and in this case, to do our due diligence in protecting ourselves. I just can't imagine God expecting anyone to watch as some thug, terrorist, or lunatic casually stabs loved ones, etc, to death when there's a weapon, etc, a foot away thay would stop Satan's little party. I don't understand such logic, but these are just my personal thoughts on these topics. For the record, I'd do my best to injure, not mortally wound.
sc writes: Don't you care about your children? Stop blaming the sodomites. The mess,which probably most of us have contributed to,is of our own doing. Stop defending the entertainment and sports industry.
Provide one quote from me defending either industry. You need to knock it off with the strawman arguments.
I would add to your post US that this continual slander of Christians and sc obsession with naked cheerleaders, professional sports, holidays and wine has become an embarrassment as a whole for this forum...people reading her comments and our reponses must think we are all crazy. God is not glorified in this fiasco.
I may not wish a discussion with sc, but I will defend ladybug.
First, sc improper interpretation of her apparent obsession with "nakedness". If what she says was correct, then she would also have to say a woman without a veil is the same as being nude and men are still wearing knee length robes without undergarments as they ascend stairs. One begins to think that her spiritual gift is misinterpreting and misapplying the Word of God. But I digress.
sc assertion is that there is a double standard.
produce the quotes from this thread or any one for that matter that:
shows one condoning immodesty
shows one condoning immorality
shows one saying the NBA was correct in their action
shows someone saying you should watch NBA games
shows someone saying something good about cheerleading
shows someone saying they are watching anything so they can view someone dressed immodestly
show someone defending the entertainment and sports industry
If you can't come up with any post that say any of the above, then ladybug is accurate and it would seem you owe her an apology. If you cannot show a post that demonstrates any of the above, no need to respond as I am not interested in your opinion just solid facts that back up your accusation of a double standard.