Thank you! This was a very encouraging message, reminding me of the great love of God, and how He uses trials in our lives to draw us closer to Him. The trials of our faith are more precious than gold. Also, an excellent reminder to pray correctly.
Michael Hranek wrote: Bro John UK Wales IMHO I believe we are seeing something of what Art Azurdia mentions in his sermon: Preaching the Cross of Christ http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=117091932351
Sounds interesting Michael.
It is most important to preach the true gospel with biblical warrant and doctrine. I believe this passage spells it out perfectly:
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
Those who follow this biblical pattern are know as Christ-centred preachers. They make much of the one who is to be the object of our trust.
There are others who seem to spend the entire message telling folks to do something, like "believe" or "repent" or whatever. But in order to savingly believe, it is the object who must be held forth.
It is quite clear that Obama holds to Dr. Peter Singer's view of the value of human life. Dr. Singer denies that human life has any divinely given "sanctity." He wants to replace the idea of the intrinsic "sanctity" of life with a belief that the "quality" of life is what matters. Quality of life determines whether or not a particular human "animal" deserves to live. According to Singer,it is human society, not God, that determines which lives have sufficient quality, and therefore value, to be preserved. For that reason, Singer sees nothing wrong with the practice of infanticide in the case of infants who are born with physical handicaps or mental deficiencies that will greatly reduce their quality of life. He also believes that if a child is unwanted by its mother, its life is thereby denied sufficient value to merit being preserved, so it is perfectly legitimate to eliminate that life either in the womb, or sometime shortly after birth. Such a view is monstrous of course, but that is not surprising, since the denial of God leads to the denial of man as well-- the total obliteration of all divinely given dignity and value to human life. That is apparently the worldview that our president embraces, which explains his advocacy of late-term abortion.
Ok we will take demons out of the equation. Tell me what the difference is between this statement -- Jesus Christ is the literal Son of God..-- and ---We believe in one Lord Jesus Christ the only Son of God---both statements are orthodox, maintaining that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Therefore, by your own admission, just because it is in the creed doesn't mean that the denomination that makes the statement adheres to what is stated. RCC may talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk, thus they have NEVER worshiped the true Lord Jesus but only one of their own making. Only God can open your eyes to the truth of that statement. It is nice to have friends that believe in you, but none of us stand before any other judgment seat than one occupied by the Lord Jesus Christ. His Word says that whatsoever a man sows that shall he also reap, if you sow corrupt RCC seed you will not reap life everlasting. John, all believers are required to examine themselves whether they be in the faith, until your "faith" leads you to leave the false religion you practice there is no reason to believe it is genuine. I say this with hopeful prayer that you will deeply consider the many admonitions you have been given.
Dolores L wrote: I was on facebook and afew minutes ago a notice pops up saying, that the NSA had just that very moment intercepted a terrorist attack plot through their surveliance..makes it better for me to see it's really helping..I'm not worried for myself because I have nothing to hide..if it saves lives then it's ok with me but don't abuse it!
Good timing, what with the latest flap about secret surveillance, don't you think? Was any evidence provided you, or just the notice, which as you know, has no meaning by itself? Maybe it's a joke, as NSA going on Facebook, trying to convince us it's all good, doesn't seem too likely.
Bible Helps wrote: --- WCF 8/1. It pleased God, in his eternal purpose, to choose and ordain the Lord Jesus, his only-begotten Son, to be the Mediator between God and man, the Prophet, Priest, and King; the Head and Saviour of his Church, the Heir of all things, and Judge of the world; unto whom he did, from all eternity, give a people to be his seed, and to be by him in time redeemed, called, justified, sanctified, and glorified. 2. The Son of God, the second person in the Trinity, being very and eternal God, of one substance, and equal with the Father, did, when the fulness of time was come, take upon him man‚Äôs nature ....
The Son of God is God, and his mission, established before the incarnation, was voluntary. Does WCF think that one day the Father said to the Son, "Here's what I want you to do"?
John 10:17,18 "Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."
I was on facebook and afew minutes ago a notice pops up saying, that the NSA had just that very moment intercepted a terrorist attack plot through their surveliance..makes it better for me to see it's really helping..I'm not worried for myself because I have nothing to hide..if it saves lives then it's ok with me but don't abuse it!
perhaps more children would be born if we treated them not as a disease that invaded, and where the ladies can give assistance to one another. doctors have written of tribes, before the western diet comes it, that children were readily born. sometimes we make things more difficult, thinking we are making things better!
From the news: "In a Statement of Administration Policy, the president called the ‚ÄúPain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act‚ÄĚ (H.R. 1797) ‚Äúan assault on a woman's right to choose‚ÄĚ and said it shows ‚Äúcontempt for...the Constitution.‚ÄĚ
If nothing else, he has gall. The man who more than most despises the Constitution, and bypasses it when he needs to get his way, says others have contempt for it? Amazing.
The right to choose murder does not exist anywhere, Mr. "President."
John UK wrote: I already said that. And I didn't need to cut and paste.
Bro John UK Wales IMHO I believe we are seeing something of what Art Azurdia mentions in his sermon: Preaching the Cross of Christ http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=117091932351
Among some there is: first a generation that is preoccupied with the Gospel, and in my words here is rightly considered with sound Biblcal Doctrine
second a generation that presumes the Gospel, and in my words here is still nevetheless concerned with Biblical Doctrine but increasingly mixes them with the doctrines of men
third a generation that abandons the Gospel, and in my words here abandons the Word of God for the doctrines of men (and yes, at one time orginally teachings coming from some godly Christian men)
jpw We are always honored to have the participation of a godly sister in Christ in our discussions. May your faith in Christ always be an encouragement to the family of God and a witness to the lost of One Mighty and Willing to Save the very worst of sinners, completely and forever.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Please note, that from previous post, 6/17/13 11:33 AM Unprofitable Servant| Georgia , that the statement on the Mormon site and the testimony of demons, is every bit as orthodox as the creed you quote from the Catholics. Are you saying that because they(Mormons and demons) have an accurate statement then they are to be considered true followers of Christ? Because that is what you are saying about the RCC. I would say all are false and just because they state things accurately in their creed does not give them credibility.
It is false to state that Mormons and JW'S have any biblical beliefs. There are no scriptural doctrines in the Mormon and JW organizations. It is also false to state that Mormons worship Jesus as God. Mentioning the demons is totally superfluous because the demons are not in human form. So it makes no difference what the demons believe because they can never be saved anyway. But Catholics have always worshipped Jesus as God. Luther didn't even believe the false notion that Catholics worship a false jesus. And Luther was Catholic.
CV, I agree with you, glad to see this discussion here with MH, and John UK.
Christ's election is for both Jew and Gentile.
Some would cut out half the gospel to try to prove otherwise.
Some would say they believe in free will for Gentile and election for Jew.
This distinction is not consistent with New Testament teaching that teaches these distinctions are erased in Christ.
Some want to reintroduce distinctions to the Kingdom of God, even cutting out great sections of the NT for the Gentile believer in order to keep their theories from being disproven. Once I see the scissors taken out as a tool for reading the New Covenant, I go grab the tape and put God's word back together.
John UK is right and too kind.... these scriptures are there for the encouragment of the believer. who would want to steal these words away from the believer, and I would ask, what will God say to all the groups that confess Christ but then diminish His means for reaching the world? reminds me of the paintings in some churches where Mary looms large and Jesus is a little baby, small and weak.... Christ's covenant is not weak and is our one hope.
It pleased God, in his eternal purpose, to choose and ordain the Lord Jesus, his only-begotten Son, to be the Mediator between God and man, the Prophet, Priest, and King; the Head and Saviour of his Church, the Heir of all things, and Judge of the world; unto whom he did, from all eternity, give a people to be his seed, and to be by him in time redeemed, called, justified, sanctified, and glorified.
I already said that.
And I didn't need to cut and paste.
Psalms 8:3-4 KJV 3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; 4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Isaiah 1:3 KJV 3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
Acts 2:36-37 KJV 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Bible Helps wrote: John Just because you and Michael have decided to support 'salvation by self' along with the apparently blind SBC
B(ig?) Help Sorry, not really as I thoroughly disagree with your premise, not to be angry with you in your (respectfully) ignorance, but so others might be encouraged to read the Bible for themselves. Something that is "ironic" that some supposedly knowing the doctrine of "Sola Scriptura" don't do.
For example it is quite ironic you would respond with first a false accusation of where John UK or I am coming from, followed by a reference to the WCF and then seek to justify your position with proof texting.
Which IMHO isn't an example at all of someone who knows both intellectually and in real life practise "Sola Scriptura"
btw I am quite happy if anyone wants to go to Scripture to honestly check out that things I would write of the Lord Jesus Christ in the context of Scripture, of the Gospel, of the Faith He Himself authors, perfects, is pleased with, honors and rewards, to see if such things are so. Seeing His word is Truth!
BTW the rcc doesn't like people to actually read the Bible for themselves to check out if what they teach is the Truth either (only with a rc interpretation).
John Yurich USA wrote: My Baptist friend and my Non Denominational brother are Born Again. My brother was raised Catholic and knows Catholic doctrine and yet he doesn't state that Catholics worship a False jesus. Luther didn't even state that Catholics worship a False jesus.
Please note, that from previous post, 6/17/13 11:33 AM Unprofitable Servant| Georgia , that the statement on the Mormon site and the testimony of demons, is every bit as orthodox as the creed you quote from the Catholics. Are you saying that because they(Mormons and demons) have an accurate statement then they are to be considered true followers of Christ? Because that is what you are saying about the RCC. I would say all are false and just because they state things accurately in their creed does not give them credibility.