Jim Lincoln wrote: First of all getting back to the most important part of the whole topic which I think most of you ignore, except saying it isn't really important that a person can understand the Bible, Apparently you can put the KJV on a table lay your hands on it, and you'll be infused with Biblical knowledge!
Jim the KJV is still written in English and for the most part (approx. 99%) is understandable by most with a basic education in English, unless one has some sort of brain defect.
Hmmm now there's a thought, which could explain a lot. Lol. Could also explain why you prefer to be spoon fed by the "experts" instead of thinking and researching things for yourself. This is all beginning to make sense now!
Wayfairer pilgrim wrote: African culture has had situations which lent itself to homosexual rape or incest, it is a health issue and a sin problem. Africa has been decimated by HIV, they do not need our presdent destroying them anymore than they already have by war, famine or disease.
Maybe,"why is",you should read the article. It does clarify the dress standards for women as well... in a little more detail. Perhaps you should stop being bothered with my concern over the lack of modesty and consider why such is particularly bothersome to one as yourself who claims to be a Christian. You should be bothered by immodesty as well and also rejoice when there are measures made to address it. Got conviction?
History will determine how good of President he was, from a secular viewpoint. He certainly was better than the last one, and considering the menagerie that is running on the Republican side of the fence, just toss a rock into that group, back in 2012 'Are the Republican candidates all crazy?' We have many of the same old faces, but some new faces can be added to this mix bag of nuts. Which Republicans are running for US president in 2016? But I don't think this newspaper was able to keep up with the growing total.
So, no matter which party's candidate wins the Presidency, in comparison, President Obama could end looking very good -- from a secular point of view.
"Despite persecution from Islamic terrorists, Christians in Iraq will not receive any support from the United States government, according to Creeping Sharia.
Though they have been threatened by Muslims in refugee camps run by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, Christians will not be supported because of their religious affiliation, according to the U.S. State Department, which has flatly refused to resettle Christian refugees in the United States.
No ‚Äúpreferential treatment,‚ÄĚ despite the fact that Christianity is currently experiencing some of the worst persecution in its history, according to Archbishop Bashar Warda.
‚ÄúChristianity in Iraq is going through one of its worst and hardest stages of its long history,‚ÄĚ said Warda. ‚ÄúThroughout all these long centuries, we have experienced many hardships and persecutions, offering caravans of martyrs. Yet 2014 brought the worst acts of genocide against us in our history.‚ÄĚ" (worthy news) http://www.christianpersecution.info/
Aha! You were just about to answer the questions, eh Jim?
Well, now's your chance. ______________
Bro Mike NY,
Excellent questions as always from your keyboard.
Yes, I was converted through the preaching of the King James Bible through three different preachers, one of whom illustrated some of his points loosely from Kenneth Taylor's paraphrase, things like "when the flute toots, you all bow down and worship the golden idol" etc. And the preacher said, "You can get it a little straighter from the King James Bible, but anyway......"
After conversion I bought several Bibles, not knowing what to get. Man, there is suuuuuuuch a selection to choose from. I got a New English Bible and a Scofield Reference Bible and other KJV Bibles. And then, what a selection of churches to go to. Where shall I go? The RCC, the Methodist, Baptist, Brethren Gospel Hall, United Reformed, Presbyterian, Pentecostal? Which? I didn't know, so I asked the Lord, and he told me.
Re-revisionist,the Apotheosis of Washington is not so subtle after all. Speaking of not being able to see the forest for the trees... Thanks for the item of interest. Anyone who questions whether or not GW was a freemason might like to take a gander at this.
John UK wrote: I wish I could find a KJV-Onlyist on this forum, I'd try to put him straighter. In ignorance of the textual issue, after my conversion I read the NIV for nine years and the NKJV for a further nine years. The NKJV was a Study Bible. It purported to be translated from the same underlying texts of the KJV translation. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but I knew no different, and I would guess that the majority of Christians know no different. This is why I believe this topic is important, and should be aired regularly. About 2001, I was using the NKJV, thinking it to be reliable and safe. But some believers in the know, pointed out to me the margin notes. And hey, look ye here, what do we have in the margin notes of the NKJV Study Bible, translated from the Majority Texts? Ohhh, wonder of wonders, the magic words "NU" and "most ancient manuscripts"! ---
Bro John, were you converted via the KJ then for some reason switched to the NIV and NKJV? Are you saying that for 18 years, you grew not at all from studying out of the latter two? The Holy Spirit was stymied by versions? Were you becoming less indwelt, or a voice for ecumenism? I'm just curious how this ignorance of the textual issue worked negatively in your life.
African culture has had situations which lent itself to homosexual rape or incest, it is a health issue and a sin problem. Africa has been decimated by HIV, they do not need our presdent destroying them anymore than they already have by war, famine or disease.
First of all getting back to the most important part of the whole topic which I think most of you ignore, except saying it isn't really important that a person can understand the Bible, Apparently you can put the KJV on a table lay your hands on it, and you'll be infused with Biblical knowledge! An American pastor translated Elizabethan into English and came with a readable text of the KJV.
I Corinthians 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine? 7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped? 8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? 9 So likewise you, except you utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for you shall speak into the air. 10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification. 11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be to him that speaks a barbarian, and he that speaks shall be a barbarian to me. ---American KJV
E.U.'s Vacant Seat Number 666 wrote: "Date Posted 7/22/1999
Rome & Politics
THE VATICAN SEAT NUMBER 666 IN THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT
Report On The Opening Of The Fifth Elected Parliament Of Europe IAN R.K. PAISLEY, M.P., M.E.P. ...
The Seats Of Its Massive Hemicycle...Are 679 Of Them...One Seat Remains Unallocated And Unoccupied. The Number Of That Seat Is 666...
#665 ZISSENER #666 - - - - - - - #667 CAPPATO..."
ACCORDING TO J.V.:
#666 [DEMITRI] !
The Most "Dumbfounding" Thing I've Been Told By J.V. About THE ANTICHRIST-/-DEMITRI-DEMITRIUS Is That HE (THE ANTICHRIST) Is About 238 Yrs. Old ! & That HE Was Born In The Year 1777 (1779 IF You Calculate The Leap Years).
Which Would Make #1)The BIRTH Of THE U.S.A. (1776 A.D.) #2)The BIRTH Of THE ANTICHRIST (1777-79 A.D.) & #3)The BIRTH Of THE TRILLIONAIRE$-BANKING ILLUMINATI-/-SATANIST ROTH$CHILD$ DYNASTY--Via The "Money (Coin) Changing" Business Of MEYER AMSCHEL ROTHSCHILD (1770s A.D.) ALL CLOSELY-SYNONYMOUSLY DATED EVENTS !
J.V. Said THE ANTICHRIST-/-DEMITRI-DEMITRIUS "Ceased" Showing Visual/Physical Signs Of "Aging" Since HIS 25th Birthday (1802-04 A.D.) & TODAY (2015 A.D.) Looks Like HE's In HIS 30s !
**J.V.: DEMITRI Was BORN Within THE BOUNDARIES Of THE OLD ROMAN EMPIRE !
Jim Lincoln wrote: .. the critical texts are more accurate than the Textus Receptus. .......I also you gentlemen have a true KJV with the marginal notes where the KJV translators weren't sure of how something should be translated? blah blah blah
Jim your arrogance knows no bounds! What proof have you offered that the critical text is superior to the RT? Since you've never seen the autographs, how would you know? Oh wait, I bet it's because Combs tells you so, eh? Lol
As for your statement about the KJV translators not knowing how to translate some things, what they did was render the word they thought most fitting but in the margin state what else it could have meant. That's called faithfulness, not that you'd ever understand what that means.
Your thinking is so immature it beggars belief. And to think that you've got away with posting such infantile rubbish on this forum for years! Smh!
sc, I don't know that I can speak for what Christians are thinking anymore. They've gone quiet for the most part. it is a spiritual battle, I've always felt the age of enlightened intelligence was a bit of ruse.
Pennned suggests "... There is some good in this, let them see evil for what it is, should cause repulsion and fear." They didn't catch the evil in the rest of the junk posing as that which is positive. I would suggest that they can't because they are deceived. What's the Christian's excuse? Many Christians only get bothered by the fruit of apostasy and idol worship when they should have considered the root of it and been disturbed by everything else that paved the way for the more "obvious" filth. And again, statues,paintings and monuments are just in our face tokens of that which we have already embraced and been duped by. Your comment as such illustrates the deception. The lost are deceived and the saved choose to close their eyes unless it's a shared,pet abomination like homosexuality or satan worship.
Painted in 1865 by Constantino Brumidi, the Apotheosis of Washington in the eye of the U.S. Capitol Building's Rotunda depicts George Washington rising to the heavens in glory, flanked by female figures representing Liberty and Victory/Fame and surrounded by six groups of figures. The fresco is suspended 180 feet above the Rotunda floor and covers an area of 4,664 square feet.
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"nobody" know about this. ---- The Apotheosis of Washington in the eye of the Rotunda of the U.S. Capitol was painted in the true fresco technique by Constantino Brumidi in 1865. Brumidi (1805-1880) was born and trained in Rome and had painted in the Vatican and Roman palaces before emigrating to the United States in 1852. A master of creating the illusion of three-dimensional forms and figures on flat walls, Brumidi painted frescoes and murals throughout the Capitol from 1855 until his death.
The Apotheosis of Washington, his most ambitious work at the Capitol Building,was painted in 11 months at the end of the Civil War, soon after the new dome was completed, for $40,000.The figures, up to 15 feet tall, were painted to be intelligible from close up as well as from 180 feet below.
revisionist wrote: Apotheosis in ancient Rome was a process whereby a deceased ruler was recognized as having been divine... U.S.Capital: Washington becomes a god The apotheosis of Washington is clearly depicted. Here is a problem: the worship is clearly depicted here. Maybe you never heard of this? Or you did not grasp that the "subtil" serpent had followers that laugh at their hidden images that are missed by those expecting overt worship.. Btw : my dad was a Masonic High Priest- he loved this hidden "truth"
please continue to protest against things nobody knows about (your words)because there are no issues being forced openly that would command our attention Beside we wrestle against statues, paintings, and obelisks in this present evil world