John y....I asked you to provide scripture for your blasphemous lie that God accepts 'scriptural aspects' of the catholic mass. You came back with only your OPINION!! It is obvious to all that you are a liar and bring nothing on this forum but pagan romish tripe.
Carl in Greensboro wrote: I think the Judges 18:7 quote in yesterday's related Breaking News concerning the border threat is appropriate here also,
Judges 18:7 Then the five men departed, and came to Laish, and saw the people that were therein, how they dwelt careless, after the manner of the Zidonians, quiet and secure; and there was no magistrate in the land, that might put them to shame in any thing; and they were far from the Zidonians, and had no business with any man.
I think the Judges 18:7 quote in yesterday's related Breaking News concerning the border threat is appropriate here also, but I don't think the threat at the border is more immediate than the threats within the border. They have over a 100 male and female US recruits on "active duty" on the battlefield in Syria & Iraq. There has to be 1000s still here trying to find the courage to do something courageous in the name of Allah. Once they do ISIS and others are sure to finance them. We are too ignorant in thinking that one has to be an Arab or speak Arabic to be an Islamic terrorist and that's just naive. Islam is worldwide and the only Arabic an Islamic martyr needs to know is "Allah hooah akbar" (transliterated) before they blow themselves up along with scores or maybe 100s of Americans. Who knows? Before long your kids will be in madrasas learning Arabic. Prayer in schools will be reinstated as they pray 5 times a day towards Mecca. Your wives and daughters will have their heads covered in public. This administration may truly want a police state but I think the greater danger is the US becoming the most dominant caliphate in the world. Chuckle if you like but if you think Islam will be sympathetic to Christianity then you're in for a really rude awakening.
John Yurich USA wrote: So the Father and Jesus don't accept the Bible readings, The Apostles and Nicene Creeds, the prayers to Jesus, the Lord's Prayer and the words of Jesus from the Last Supper? If you believe that then you are the one who is telling a blasphemous lie.
Im glad that the RCC still reads the Lords Prayer, too many independent baptist churches wont. They say it the 'apostles' prayer and that the kingdom was declined. So sad that the RCC is MORE Biblical in this way than many Protestant Churches today
Hard facts wrote: Your proof please, or is this just more of your BS?
I find the theology of those that want to believe America is Biblical Zion VERY heretical. Just like when the Anabaptist Kingdom of Munster called themselves 'New Jerusalem,' it didnt become the heavenly Jerusalem. In fact it became a den of theives....its just a dream of the heretics to transform something. They do it to beguile their followers I am surprised that Lurker has Anglo Israeli tendencies, just trying to fish out which variation he was beguiled with
MS wrote: John Yurich wrote: God the Father and Jesus accept the scriptural aspects of the catholic mass. OH..? Provide scripture for that blasphemous lie!!
So the Father and Jesus don't accept the Bible readings, The Apostles and Nicene Creeds, the prayers to Jesus, the Lord's Prayer and the words of Jesus from the Last Supper? If you believe that then you are the one who is telling a blasphemous lie.
SteveR wrote: Faulty reasoning, America was named after David wrote Psalms. Just as people name their child David AFTER King David, the original Christians who came to the New World named this land after what they sought.
Your proof please, or is this just more of your BS?
Jim Lincoln wrote: I would argue there's absolutely no difference between the two in the eyes of God.
You have no comprehension abilities at all if you believe that there is no difference between the Catholic Mass and the Black Mass of the Satanists. There are scriptural aspects of the Catholic Mass whereas there is nothing scriptural whatsover about the Black Mass of the Satanists. God the Father and Jesus accept the scriptural aspects of the Catholic Mass.
John Yurich USA wrote: By stating that being a Christian hinges on one leaving the Catholic Church in addition to embracing Jesus as ones Savior then you are in essence adding another requirement onto salvation. ..
2 Cor 6. 11- 18
O ye Corinthians, our mouth is open unto you, our heart is enlarged. Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels. Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
Christians are those who care to obey God so that they can enjoy His presence. Not so JY.
Lurker wrote: Spanish? My goodness! I could make a compelling case that the moon is made of blue cheese using your methods. So David was speaking of the USA when he penned Psalm 132:13-14? Too bad for all the Christians scattered all over the world. They'll have to come to America to enter God's eternal rest. One thing I will give you, Steve. You never cease to amaze.
Faulty reasoning, America was named after David wrote Psalms. Just as people name their child David AFTER King David, the original Christians who came to the New World named this land after what they sought.
Christopher000 wrote: I guess what concerns me is that as a born again Christian, and knowing what the mass itself is about and represents, I just couldn't sit there and not feel convicted and repulsed. We are who we align ourselves with. To be a born again Christian yet call myself a Roman Catholic; knowing that their doctrines and rituals are fully anti biblical and anti God, well, I would just never be able to reconcile that in my mind. To embrace Christ is to love Him and do as He commands, and He commands us to have no.fellowship with darkness. Anti biblical traditions, a man claiming to be Christ on earth, doctrines that contradict God's own Word, and rituals that defy Christ and pay homage to a queen of Heaven are darkness.
I feel convicted and repulsed when I hear the parts of the Mass that mention the Mass being a sacrifice and the intercession of the Virgin Mary and the Saints. But I just don't pay attention to those parts of the Mass. I only participate in the scriptural parts of the Mass. And thus if I refrain from participating in the unscriptural parts to the Mass and only participate in the scriptural parts to the Mass then I am not having fellowship with darkness.
John Yurich USA wrote: By stating that being a Christian hinges on one leaving the Catholic Church in addition to embracing Jesus as ones Savior then you are in essence adding another requirement onto salvation.
Lurker wrote: ... One thing I will give you, Steve. You never cease to amaze.
Bro, that's why he's in an institution for the mentally challenged Clearly the therapy ain't working! _____________
One of the first Anabaptist leaders, Felix Manz, was drowned in ZÃ¼rich in 1527, and persecution eliminated other Anabaptist leaders, most of them educated and moderate men, over the next decade. Less temperate spirits came to the fore, sustaining their courage by setting dates for the speedy coming of the Lord. One band of Anabaptists filled with apocalyptic zeal and led by John of Leiden, gained control of the town of MÃ¼nster in Westphalia in 1534. Contrary to the pacifist tenets of their fellows, they seized the sword and, in accord with Old Testament practice, they restored polygamy. The town was captured by an army of Catholics and Lutherans who executed the leaders and publicly exhibited their bodies in iron cages hung from the tower of St. Lambertâ€™s Church.
My, what a threat the peaceful tenets of the Anabaptists were to the Reformers and Romanists! Not surprising that their severe persecution brought to the fore "less temperate spirits' who adopted the persecutors OT justification to turn on them.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Millions of Catholics have become ex-Catholics, because they have come to realize that the Romish Church is a false church, a Catholic who becomes a Christian will Come Out Of The Catholic Church. He is not being a Christian by remaining in it.
By stating that being a Christian hinges on one leaving the Catholic Church in addition to embracing Jesus as ones Savior then you are in essence adding another requirement onto salvation. The Bible makes it crystal clear that there is only one requirement for salvation and that is to trust in Jesus alone for salvation by embracing Him as ones Savior. The Bible does not state anywhere that church attendance/membership in any church including Evangelical Protestant Churches is required for salvation.
SteveR wrote: In Hebrew Amaris means 'Gods Promise' The suffix 'ica' in Spanish means Mountain America means Gods promised mountain You have been beguiled by an intentional counterfeit, and very content with your path. How sad for you
Spanish? My goodness! I could make a compelling case that the moon is made of blue cheese using your methods.
So David was speaking of the USA when he penned Psalm 132:13-14? Too bad for all the Christians scattered all over the world. They'll have to come to America to enter God's eternal rest.
One thing I will give you, Steve. You never cease to amaze.
Powerful Sermon! Paul's message to the Colossians offers extremely deep insight into what true prayers by us should ask and thank God for. There are many of us who ask for things that do not please God. To properly pray there are strong factors that should be involved and Paul brings these qualities out clearly. An excellent sermon by Brother Falk about a devout prayer and the knowing that we have a special blessing when we endeavor to pray to God when everything is going well in our life and thank Him for giving us these good things in life, and not just go to God when we have troubles, though He welcomes us in those types of situations.
The radicals restricted their biblicism to the New Testament and espoused three tenets that have come to be axiomatic in the United States: the separation of church and state, the voluntary church, and religious liberty. They called themselves Baptists but were called Anabaptists by their enemies because they were accused of rebaptizing adults. They believed, however, that immersion of infants was not true baptism because the rite itself was not regenerative but the outward sign of an inner experienceâ€”the rebirth in the spiritâ€”of which only an adult was capable. The Anabaptists also believed in the possibility of a Christian society whose members were marked both by the conversion experience and by a highly disciplined deportment. In obedience to the New Testament, they repudiated swearing oaths and recourse to violence, whether at the behest of a magistrate or in war, respectively. The saints, they believed, should withdraw from the wicked world.
The Anabaptist program was perceived as a threat to the social and political order by Catholics and Protestants alike. The Diet of Speyer in 1529, for example, subjected the Anabaptists to the penalty of death with the concurrence of Catholics and Lutherans.