John for JESUS wrote: Of course God works faith and a change of will in a sinner's heart. Duh. The point I have made is that the sinner is able to on their own (through the preaching of the Gospel) to repent and believe.
So God "works faith", and the sinner "works faith".
What is the natural man (unregenerate) like? Is there is a decriptive text?
Romans 3:11 KJV 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Now John, how many understand? And how many seek God? According to the literal reading of the text, there are none.
Therefore the natural man does not ever seek after God, rather he goes away from God. Three billion or more religious people in the world do not understand, they do not seek Jehovah-Jesus. And if the religious are like that, what of the ungodly and the sinner?
No, the amazing grace of God is so called because it is God who takes the initiative. Both arminian and calvinium agree on this. But the Doctrines of Grace people take it a stage further, for the salvation at this point is still dependent only on the sinner; God has done all he can, and the rest is up to the sinner.
The step further is God "working" faith in the sinner, so that he believes.
Get Real, that's a long, difficult road you have had to travel. On a different level, I am in a similar position having a wife who is Roman Catholic by name, but worldly in every way. She has no resoect for the things that bother me, like her bar mouth, which she controls aroubd her family and friends, but no respect for me. I was thinking that if I had to deal with a porn addiction along with everything else, not to mention cheating, I think it would be a deal breaker. What a mess. Will pray for you, of course.
One question, where did the chimp and pig come from to mate? Why would they mate one time to form a human and no longer mate? Grasping at straws rather than face the truth, there is a God and He created this world and everything in it. Those who don't believe are trying to escape this fact because they know if they accept this fact then they are going to have to give an account of their lives and be judged accordingly by this God that created them.
John UK wrote: J4, if you do not grasp the simple doctrine that God works faith and a change of will in a sinner's heart right from the beginning, you will have problems with all of scripture. Observe: Philippians 2:12-13 KJV 12 Wherefore, my beloved... 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. God has a will, a pleasure (purpose). In his people, he "works" that will.
You once again seem to be arguing with me about something I haven't said. Jump to conclusions much? Of course God works faith and a change of will in a sinner's heart. Duh. The point I have made is that the sinner is able to on their own (through the preaching of the Gospel) to repent and believe. Then their will is changed by the power of the Holy Spirit. Phillipians 2 is speaking of believers, it doesn't mean unbelievers can't reject God's will for them. One can only believe if God wills it, but He wills that all believe freely, out of love. Not made too! What kind of love is forced?! It would be like slipping someone a date rape drug and saying, "She loves me!" because they didn't resist you.
I suffered through post partum depression with our first. It is something I don't talk much about, but I did manage to "hide" it from everyone because I knew if someone found out what my day/night was like with this little baby, they would have taken him and committed me. It was a year of pure torture beyond human reason, every second of every day. God, and God alone, kept my son safe, kept myself safe, and somehow cleared away the crushing weight. So I know about hiding behind laughter. I thank God that HE knew about my hiding behind the laughter, too, and HE didn't leave me when I was powerless to do anything else! At the right time, He will take the burden; until then we cling to whatever He gives us to cling to. And when we lose our grip on reality, we find He was the One holding on the whole time anyway. He really does mean it when He said, "Never will I leave you nor forsake you."
Get real from earth. I am sorry you are dealing with this. My heart goes out to you. May I ask, does he want help? If he truly wants help and want to save his marrige, tell him to try pure life ministries, it's a ministry from Kentucky , you can find it on line and there is counseling for couples and individual as well, an acceptional live in program and a program for those who cannot make it to their facility. I thank God for that ministry. I don't have all the answers but I have nothing to lose sharing that with you. God bless you . Sincerely
Jim, I consider your backtrack on judging Johns relatives promising
Shane, Anaheim near Disney? You are up early to post. I know Schulers son and been to his facility in San Juan. I have never been to CC though and would only go to Garbage Grove for good Asian food
Penny, a quiz for you(or anyone else). I know you can spot masonic handshakes, so here is a sacred geometry question. Look at a Map of Disneyland and tell me what attraction sits in the honoured sacred position, as Walt was a 33rd degree mason
James, Thank you for posting, I think some people got the message
As funny as this is, its the conclusion of a geneticist relying on the false asssumption of Evolution to explain what his research reveals. I dont want to make fun of him, because he is trying to reconcile what he sees w/evolution. Its so much better than the fantasy 'fact' of evolution by showing a poster where a single cell organism magically becomes a man after a few zillion years. After enough studies, maybe they will understand their assumption of evolution cant explain creation.
Everyday should be a national prayer day against degrading and soul destroying addictions , habit patterns and lifestyles that do not please God. Just think... If more Christians prayed for that instead of spewing head knowledge and arguing theology , docterine , and bible versions, how different things would be
I speak from personal experience, porn is no good. It destroys your soul. You don't see people right when you are bound in it. It's a horrible addiction . Even though I had to go through the fight to get free alone, there is hope. Going through the sexual perversion bondage made me realize , I couldn't do it , God had to change what I couldn't , I am weak , I do need mercy , grace , help . The only way I have stayed free is because of Gods mercy and grace. Thank you Jesus. If there is anyone on here struggling with any kind of sexual perversion , Keep crying out to God, He is faithful , does not hate you, longs to free you, and will not let you down
I stay far, far away from porn of any kind. Porn is one of Satans most potent, addictive drugs. These people can never get enough, it takes over their free time, and they begin looking outside the home to fulfill their fantasies. Sex is no longer anything special, but becomes dirty and meaningless; fleshly. My wife, just last night mentioned watching porn in passing, while I was making dinner...I said "nope". She asked me to read her book 50 shades of gray, I said, "nope". Too much info? Sorry, just making the point that I don't touch any kind of porn under any circumstances.
Yeah, VC, I hope it makes some sort of a difference. Like SF said, probably not, but I figure if it changes ever a few minds, I'll take it.
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John, have you ever put this all on paper and figured the financial aspect and nthe feasibility? I'm all for having dreams, but are they realistic? Maybe concentrate on finding a data entry position then see where God takes you.
Just amazing when I try to comprehend their "willful ignorance", Will. You mentioned fossils. Do you know how the age of a fossil is determined? By the age of the sedimentary layer it's found in. Do you know how a sedimentary layer is aged? By the fossils found within. Circular reasoning. For me, the couple of areas that nail it for me, among several others are: irreducible complexity, and the chaos theory (I forget the specific word). There are so many things, but like you said, both sides have good arguments which is why there are so many old earth creationists. The problem for evolutionists is that many of its leaders are finally addressing much of the junk science, saying that the science just doesn't supoport the theory and they must look elsewhere. Unfortunately, for most, that elsewhere doesn't include God as a possibility, but rather, panspermia. Scientists, as an unspoken rule, must be athiests under pain of excommunication from the brotherhood. The supernatural is never an option.
Pope or no Pope, Mr Francis had better tread very lightly from this point forward. The Vatican thugs, along with la familia that will have their wealth effected and long held secrets exposed won't allow anyone to get in their way. Not even Christ's Vicar, Christ on Earth, the holy father who was appointed supreme pontiff by God almighty Himself will be immune to their wrath.
I never understood the attacks on free market capitalism, especially when the argument centers on greed. I also find it very revealing of the supposed pope to over look the universal sin nature in man and direct his attacks on the system. If people would just take the history and the worldview basis of capitalism and compare it with the history and worldview basis of Socialism or Communism, clear distinctions arise in favor of Capitalism.